#eulora Logs for 30 Jun 2015



June 30th, 2015 by Diana Coman
hanbot: i think my zealous small stone hunting crashed the server, ftr. [02:26]
chetty: reset [03:13]
chetty: server reset in 5 [09:17]
chetty: default state of new claims will be unlocked, if you dont lock them the sweeper will get them [09:18]
chetty: done, up [09:23]
mod6: ahh, cool. :] [09:32]
mod6: makes for one less click anyway [09:32]
chetty: yeah thats I think why mp asked for it :) [09:34]
chetty: oh boy my first time a tiny didnt just give me one ....:))) [09:34]
diana_coman: wow, congrats chetty [09:35]
diana_coman: and yeah, the default unlock sounds like one click less, so good [09:35]
diana_coman: uhm, chetty, I got a locked claim... [10:35]
diana_coman: putrid leather [10:35]
diana_coman: first I got an unlocked one and now this one was locked... [10:35]
diana_coman: ah, no, nevermind, sorry [10:35]
diana_coman: apparently I locked by mistake somehow, lol [10:36]
chetty: well the habit on how you lock/unlock will take a bit to change I expect [10:53]
diana_coman: yeah, I think that was it, I was so used to the sequence that I really did it automatically [10:54]
diana_coman: I'm curious whether anyone got an ordinary claim at least at all [11:05]
diana_coman: as it seems to me that the latest adjustment made it so that ordinary are as remarkable as rare, lol [11:06]
chetty: yeah mp was complaining a bit about that too, on the other hand I got a couple smalls and my gathering skill is pretty low [11:15]
diana_coman: well, I have probably still the highest gathering skill and I get mainly tiny claims now with a small one here and there [11:16]
diana_coman: certainly nothing more,lol [11:16]
diana_coman: at all [11:16]
chetty: hmm well I guess the formulas still need some tweaks .. [11:17]
diana_coman: I'm not flying! just running [11:27]
diana_coman: very very quickly :p [11:27]
diana_coman: but then again, I am the least strong of all people I know there, so I guess I should be fast, no? [11:28]
chetty: well ... [11:28]
diana_coman: (and I just had an idea of making a mining robot which might actually work, hmmmm) [11:28]
chetty: you set a lot of cheat flags ... [11:28]
diana_coman: wow, even this [11:28]
diana_coman: pfft [11:28]
diana_coman: it's really just increased speed, nothing more [11:28]
chetty: yeah I know [11:29]
chetty: it just notices when you exceed 'normal' parameters [11:29]
diana_coman: There is something a bit strange/funny with automated movement otherwise [11:29]
diana_coman: I implemented something, but essentially the server doesn't seem to be very reliable in terms of what will happen [11:29]
diana_coman: one moment it moves once as instructed [11:30]
diana_coman: the next moment it just keeps going as if in a loop [11:30]
diana_coman: not really sure how/why is that other than some race conditions or the like [11:30]
chetty: now thats not too surprising, send it messages it doesnt expect, you get unexpected results .. [11:30]
diana_coman: no [11:31]
diana_coman: it's not messages it doesn't expect [11:31]
diana_coman: not at all [11:31]
diana_coman: the client has this "Push" method [11:31]
diana_coman: that supposedly executes the given movement [11:31]
diana_coman: only once [11:31]
diana_coman: and that's really what I used in the end just to see [11:31]
diana_coman: + it really is the type of movement defined on the server [11:31]
diana_coman: this "forward" [11:31]
diana_coman: I checked [11:31]
diana_coman: and it should move basically 3 units [11:32]
chetty: right, well themessage probablly isnt sequenced properly [11:32]
diana_coman: well, sometimes it does... [11:32]
diana_coman: uhm, I really don't see how/why would that be given that it's just the same after all if one presses the key for forward or this key for autopilot [11:32]
diana_coman: hmmm, let me try something [11:33]
chetty: it does some funny stuff to try and account for potentially missed messages and things, will throw out a message if it thinks its too old etc [11:33]
diana_coman: lol, now it stopped only because I died somehow [11:33]
diana_coman: that's more likely to be the trouble then, what you just said [11:34]
diana_coman: hmm [11:34]
chetty: oops [11:34]
diana_coman: well, one can break one's neck from running, certainly :) [11:35]
chetty: there is also a built in assumption that when the clientand server conflict the server wins [11:35]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman btw, let me know when you hit 200 crafting, there's a suprise for you >D [15:25]
diana_coman: he he mircea_popescu I'm very close [15:26]
diana_coman: should I search for cover when that surprise hits? lol [15:26]
mircea_popescu: whether one faces surprises nude or covered is a matter of personal preference :D [15:26]
diana_coman: ha ha, all right, lemme drink my tea first then [15:29]
diana_coman: eulorian tea that is [15:29]
diana_coman: I think I might develop a taste for that spicy moss with wooly mushroom flavour :))) [15:29]
mod6: how are you leveling so fast?! [15:29]
mod6: wern't you just on like 130 yesterday or something!? [15:30]
diana_coman: mod6 it's not that fast, but in any case: on one hand some levels require less work to complete (level up) [15:31]
diana_coman: and moreover, the more complex (read expensive) things you do, the more experience you get essentially [15:31]
diana_coman: so if you want to level fast, throw expensive staff at whatever it is you need to do [15:31]
mod6: ah, but how does one do that with things other than crafting? like building? [15:33]
mod6: just need to build bigger mines, like ordinarys instead of tiny? [15:33]
mircea_popescu: mod6 i did a huge run and was at like 85 feeling all great and sucking my own cock, top of the world, best on server etc. [15:34]
mircea_popescu: then she comes along and she's all like "oh btw, im 135" [15:34]
mircea_popescu: so i click like a maniac and lo! im 160! [15:34]
mircea_popescu: but too late, for meanwhile she's 059865867456 [15:34]
mod6: lol. ok cool. [15:36]
mod6: ima keep clickin' [15:36]
mod6: im like 70-something crafting.. [15:37]
mod6: but still only 26 or something on building [15:37]
jurov: <mircea_popescu> [20150629 19:47] wait till jurov wakes up lol << actually i'm a-ok with the changes cuz i'm now making ~10 shavings out of one bundle [16:21]
jurov: before i got only one [16:21]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman : the surprise is, that the game has a mechanism whereby players can learn skills up to half the highest player's skill. this works through a craftable tome which gives +1, and can only be crafted by people satisfying the skill requierement. it will be called Foxy's Dismal Scribblings on Tinkering, and you get to provide a description. let me know what it is! [16:22]
mircea_popescu: jurov wait til lyou hear i got 2665 shavings in one try [16:22]
diana_coman: wow, coolness :) [16:22]
jurov: ofc you may. but i'll be prolly the first one to get negative count of them [16:23]
diana_coman: I am getting closer to 200, but as usual, eulora is not exactly euclidian space so well, "close" is relative, lol [16:23]
mircea_popescu: jurov ahahaha [16:23]
mircea_popescu: hehe. [16:23]
diana_coman: I'm 198, almost at 199, lol [16:23]
diana_coman: and yaaaaay, 200 tinkering [16:28]
diana_coman: wooo hooo [16:28]
diana_coman: now I can drink my expensive eulorian tea :))) [16:29]
mircea_popescu: wd. [16:29]
mircea_popescu: lol. that's going to get effects later on, obviously. anyway : description ? [16:29]
diana_coman: so, Foxy's Dismal Scribblings on Tinkering, mfff, how long? [16:29]
diana_coman: and what does it look like? [16:29]
diana_coman: is it a book? [16:29]
mircea_popescu: well, more like a book a dinosaur digested but yes [16:29]
mircea_popescu: and how long, you've played this game beforer i take it! [16:30]
diana_coman: a piece of skin, a nail and a tooth? [16:30]
diana_coman: lol [16:30]
diana_coman: ahaha, lol [16:30]
mircea_popescu: an' this goes for the rest of ya : whoever first gets a skill that's a multiple of 200 gets his name put on the book and may supply a description which we'll consider. [16:30]
mircea_popescu: and since i'm feeling generous, also at his option either one of the book or one of the recipe making the book. [16:31]
chetty: a book digested by a dinosaur, well at least that shouldn't be too hard to model, one turd coming up :P [16:34]
mircea_popescu: lol [16:35]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu It's a scribble-scrabble of a dibble dabble. [16:35]
diana_coman: there [16:35]
diana_coman: would that be fine? [16:35]
mircea_popescu: possibly the worst description i've ever heard [16:35]
mircea_popescu: but hey, it's your book. [16:35]
diana_coman: good [16:35]
diana_coman: it's meant to be bad [16:35]
diana_coman: or at least I don't like what dinosaurs digest [16:36]
jurov: how did you resolve the wolly mushroom issue? i still don't see them at merchant [16:36]
diana_coman: I just bought the stock for tea [16:36]
diana_coman: sorry [16:36]
jurov: and when can we expect the scammer to replenish them? [16:37]
diana_coman: alternatively mircea_popescu and if it is NOT something that a dinosaur digested, I might prefer this one: The partially lost art of tinkering, now partially found. [16:38]
diana_coman: more like something that a dinosaur wanted for tea [16:38]
chetty: oo I like that one [16:38]
diana_coman: glad to hear that chetty :) [16:38]
mircea_popescu: jurov basically never. go dig. [16:38]
diana_coman: if it's all right, it can also be dedicated to Lady Voyna [16:39]
diana_coman: or Chettery, as she prefers [16:39]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman im not changing the original, i opt instead to extract my vengeance on you in the form of the consume text. [16:39]
mircea_popescu: cackles [16:39]
diana_coman: ahahaha [16:39]
mircea_popescu: if chet wants anything dedicated to her SHE'D BETTER GET WORKING [16:39]
mircea_popescu: we don't encourage lazyness around here! [16:39]
chetty: hahahah you just wait until you see my new lab [16:40]
mircea_popescu: lol [16:40]
mircea_popescu: besides, there's plenty more surprises to come, so. [16:41]
jurov: mircea_popescu: there are no mining tools for sale either [16:41]
diana_coman: uhm, what's your vengeance mining skill mircea_popescu? :p [16:41]
jurov: and i guess whoever has them, wore them out [16:41]
mircea_popescu: jurov so make some! [16:41]
jurov: they require the damn shrroms [16:41]
diana_coman: jurov, the merchant stopped selling tools [16:41]
mircea_popescu: WORK HARDER [16:41]
mircea_popescu: MORE! [16:41]
diana_coman: but I sell them and it's actually cheaper than from the merchant, since he was a pig and asked for more than 1 copper/quality point, lol [16:42]
mircea_popescu: merchants are pigs generally. it's a videogame tradition. [16:42]
mircea_popescu: o also, since everyone's here : im buying grass at 120\%, any qual over 100. [16:43]
diana_coman: uhm, I might have some, lemme check [16:43]
mircea_popescu: i want like [16:43]
mircea_popescu: i dunno, 500k or so. [16:43]
diana_coman: ahahaha, you may want [16:43]
diana_coman: but you know what? [16:43]
mircea_popescu: hm ? [16:43]
diana_coman: some strange thing happened to the claims system that even I don't get anything other than tiny and veeery occasionally small [16:44]
mircea_popescu: it could be that you suck [16:44]
diana_coman: so 500k grass would take about a year or so, lol [16:44]
mircea_popescu: hehe. im actually reviewing that thing see if anything is actually amiss or we just suck. [16:44]
mircea_popescu: the idea is, cruddy hoes etc aren't much of an implement. [16:44]
diana_coman: no, I use axes [16:44]
diana_coman: pickaxes [16:45]
chetty: ooo small spicy moss :) [16:45]
mircea_popescu: o hey wd. [16:45]
diana_coman: but well, what else is there to use? [16:45]
jurov: i can sell 400 pieces.. far cry from 500k [16:45]
mircea_popescu: yeah, as i said. moar stuff to come. [16:46]
diana_coman: lol jurov, it says you are too busy to get the mushroom [16:46]
mircea_popescu: he's busy getting the ganja [16:46]
chetty: since it looks like a lot of the first level bugs have been slain you can expect regular additions I think [16:47]
mircea_popescu: anyway, re merchant : don't expect him around forever. sooner or later he ends up in npc concentration camp. [16:48]
diana_coman: poor merchant, will write an eulogy for him [16:48]
mircea_popescu: euloralgy [16:49]
mircea_popescu: like, PAIN [16:49]
chetty: make him a gravestone :) [16:49]
mircea_popescu: chetty is electron gonna be the first grave ? not a bad idea [16:49]
diana_coman: yes chetty, good idea [16:49]
mircea_popescu: "Here lies poor Spirover, who needed new shoes." [16:49]
mircea_popescu: or i guess "Ci-git Spiron, qui ne fut rien, pas meme academicien" [16:50]
diana_coman: he he, changing original names now, although not tome descriptions :p [16:53]
mircea_popescu: aha it's confirmed the explore process is actually right. [16:59]
mircea_popescu: we'll just have to make better tools is all. [16:59]
diana_coman: yeah, use a bigger hammer(axe) [17:01]
diana_coman: ha chetty, that was jurov this time! [17:02]
diana_coman: not me, not me [17:02]
diana_coman: :))) [17:02]
jurov: ? [17:02]
diana_coman: flying :p [17:03]
diana_coman: the server admin message [17:03]
chetty: tsk tsk [17:03]
jurov: aha [17:04]
mod6: bzzzzt [17:31]
hanbot: lol diana_coman my positioning tips are too hot for server [17:31]
diana_coman: ahahaha [17:31]
diana_coman: hanbot care to write them here? it's probably anyway better, as the channel is logged [17:34]
hanbot: sure, was just sayin', ignore middle value, hit a /pos at starting point, go a few steps, verify you're closer to target with another /pos. if not, turn around. and don't worry too much about dead accuracy as you start out, correct as you go. [17:37]
hanbot: i verify with /pos maybe every 20 seconds [17:38]
diana_coman: ugh, that's what I was trying to do [17:38]
diana_coman: but either I am not patient enough [17:38]
diana_coman: or I still mess it up somehow [17:38]
hanbot: well you move fast enough i'm sure it's easy to get well off track before you know what's what ;) [17:38]
diana_coman: the middle pos is for vertical position and therefore yeah, it should be ignored as it will anyway be uniquely determined by the other two [17:39]
diana_coman: I slowed down, lol [17:39]
diana_coman: but thanks anyway :) [17:39]
hanbot: np. too bad heina can't train ya [17:40]
diana_coman: he he, I'm quite sure I'll find it easier to figure out how to add a map to the eulora client than to get the hang of it [17:42]
chetty: cheat flag over flow [17:45]
diana_coman: ahahaha chetty, seriously? [17:46]
jurov: <chetty> [20150630 13:18] default state of new claims will be unlocked, << i still get everything locked [17:53]
chetty: hahaha the once again jurov is different than everyone else [17:58]
jurov: no it's my muscle memory, i used to unlock them automatically [18:11]
jurov: did not notice i'm still doing it [18:11]
jurov: looks like eulora economy can easily reach impasse where all wooly mushrooms are spent making something else than mining tools [18:17]
jurov: and thus no new ones can be mined [18:17]
mircea_popescu: can mine with hands neh ? [18:28]
jurov: will i ever find anything with hands? [18:30]
mircea_popescu: i'm sure you will. [18:30]
jurov: certainly not tjhese mushrooms [18:31]
mircea_popescu: grins [18:32]
mircea_popescu: i just cause the shortages, i don't resolve them. [18:32]
jurov: um. some shrooms appeared at merchant somehow [18:37]
mircea_popescu: anyone found dead molusc yet btw ? [18:53]
mod6: servers down? [23:29]

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