| feedbot: | http://thetarpit.org/2020/on-computers << The Tar Pit -- On computers | [07:09] |
| feedbot: | http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/11/the-velvety-bloodsucker-the-twinheaded-dandy-and-other-euloran-hopefuls/ << Ossa Sepia -- The Velvety Bloodsucker, the Twinheaded Dandy and Other Euloran Hopefuls | [13:11] |
| feedbot: | http://fixpoint.welshcomputing.com/2020/preliminary-report-on-the-bitcoind-hex-conversion-mess/ << Fixpoint -- Preliminary report on the bitcoind hex conversion mess | [14:08] |
| diana_coman: | !!up cruciform | [15:33] |
| deedbot: | You may not !!up yourself. | [15:33] |
| diana_coman: | !!up #ossasepia cruciform | [15:33] |
| deedbot: | cruciform voiced for 30 minutes. | [15:33] |
| cruciform: | diana_coman, hi! couldn't !!up via deedbot | [15:33] |
| diana_coman: | cruciform: did you go !!up #ossasepia ? | [15:33] |
| diana_coman: | it needs the chan name now | [15:33] |
| cruciform: | ah, that'll be it | [15:34] |
| diana_coman: | try it again | [15:34] |
| diana_coman: | !!down #ossasepia cruciform | [15:34] |
| diana_coman: | hm, no? | [15:34] |
| diana_coman: | lolz | [15:34] |
| diana_coman: | !!help | [15:34] |
| deedbot: | http://deedbot.org/help.html | [15:34] |
| diana_coman: | trinque: the !!down seems to not work? | [15:34] |
| cruciform: | diana_coman, are you well? I finally started feeling better yesterday - just waiting on my sense of smell to return :p | [15:37] |
| diana_coman: | cruciform: I'm all right, thank you; and glad to hear you got better then, I gather you caught the virus in fashion there | [15:38] |
| cruciform: | diana_coman, yea - not the most pleasant thing, but not sure why the whole economy needs shutting down over it | [15:39] |
| diana_coman: | eh, the "over it" is because there had to be a reason given, lol. | [15:40] |
| cruciform: | I suppose ya gotta have a pretext to run the money printers | [15:41] |
| cruciform: | at any rate, olfaction isn't necessary for getting work done, so I guess I'll get to it starting tomorrow | [15:43] |
| diana_coman: | cruciform: sounds reasonable; who wants to sniff work all that much anyway | [15:44] |
| cruciform: | diana_coman, lol, yes - making my way through all the bad coffee and nasty tinned stuff I stockpiled, before I can taste it | [15:45] |
| diana_coman: | cruciform: lol! did they run otherwise out of nasty stuff? or why stockpile on the nasty stuff in the first place? sounds rather masochistic to me | [15:48] |
| diana_coman: | how does the thinking go - what if I don't get the chance of tasting nasty tinned stuff anymore? lolz | [15:49] |
| cruciform: | yea, all they had left was nasty tomatoed mackerel - I'd figured it best to be safe after reading Taleb's twitter | [15:53] |
| diana_coman: | o.O what did taleb twitter? | [15:53] |
| diana_coman: | admits to not follow twitter at all. | [15:54] |
| cruciform: | he seems to think the virus is worth taking seriously - precautionary principle, and all that | [15:54] |
| diana_coman: | cruciform: perhaps for him it's worth taking seriously (or at least twitting to take it seriously); that doesn't directly translate to much for you/someone else like that though | [15:55] |
| diana_coman: | anyways, you have now a great article you could write - on the tomatoed mackerel effect (or similar). | [15:56] |
| cruciform: | what do you mean that it doesn't translate to me? | [15:58] |
| diana_coman: | cruciform: if A says that B is worth taking seriously, that comes with "for A, B is worth taking seriously"; now whether it's ALSO worth taking seriously by a C is a matter for C to decide and it's not always "if for A, then for C too" | [16:00] |
| diana_coman: | kind of doubts Taleb ended up eating nasty tinned tomatoed mackerel too, lolz. | [16:01] |
| cruciform: | ah, Wittgenstein's Ruler - Taleb'd approve :) | [16:01] |
| cruciform: | diana_coman, it's also very possible I caught the damn thing while shopping for said tomatoed nastiness, too | [16:02] |
| diana_coman: | eh, approvals and disapprovals - I have a full collection of both and they both do still 0 for me. | [16:03] |
| diana_coman: | ahahaha, now that is basically perfect lesson | [16:03] |
| diana_coman: | cruciform: try !!up yourself and complain in pm if it's still not working | [16:04] |
| diana_coman: | !!reputation cruciform | [16:05] |
| deedbot: | http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=ZCNF | [16:05] |
| diana_coman: | !!up #ossasepia cruciform | [16:06] |
| deedbot: | cruciform voiced for 30 minutes. | [16:06] |
| diana_coman: | trinque: can you clarify the rules that deedbot follows currently when deciding whether someone can !!up themselves or not? | [16:07] |
| cruciform: | diana_coman, regarding dis/approvals - isn't that essentially the WoT? I suppose I've built up an implied trust for Taleb | [16:07] |
| diana_coman: | cruciform: there are at least two layers to it at the very least, first of all trust is one thing, seeking approval is an entirely different thing; second, trusting what one says does *not* mean that you don't reason what the implications of it are *in your own context*. | [16:08] |
| cruciform: | to the second point: that's something I frequently derp over | [16:12] |
| diana_coman: | what can I say, I kind of always erred on the side of - might make my own mistakes but at least they are my OWN ffs. | [16:15] |
| trinque: | diana_coman: not sure why !!down didn't work. I'll take a look. | [16:15] |
| trinque: | http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=He3f << here's the good-standing-p func, which I altered with the thresholds we discussed previously | [16:17] |
| trinque: | "lord" here means folks in your l1 | [16:17] |
| trinque: | did somebody have trouble using !!up ? | [16:17] |
| diana_coman: | trinque: cruciform says he tried !!up #ossasepia cruciform and deedbot still said he could not up himself; he has a rating of 1 from me; is that not enough for him to up himself? | [16:18] |
| trinque: | yes, not enough per lemme find the thread | [16:19] |
| diana_coman: | trinque: ah, I thought !!up self is different from !!up others, hm. | [16:21] |
| diana_coman: | goes to re-read the orig spec on trilema too | [16:21] |
| trinque: | http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/21/ossasepia-logs-for-25-Mar-2020#1022832 | [16:21] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2020-03-25 11:11:16 diana_coman: trinque: all right; I'll take your word for it then and therefore subscribe to your deedbot service; can it be made so that it allows self-voice in #ossasepia to those in my L1 with ratings > 2? | [16:21] |
| diana_coman: | ah, right you are | [16:22] |
| trinque: | at any rate, if you'd like to let folks with a 1 self-voice, I have no problem with that either. | [16:22] |
| trinque: | and I did find the problem with !!down already, so that'll be fixed sometime this afternoon. | [16:23] |
| diana_coman: | trinque: yeah, self-voice for folks with a 1 is good; sorry for messing you about there. | [16:25] |
| trinque: | nbd | [16:25] |
| jfw: | http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/22/ossasepia-logs-for-10-Apr-2020#1024077 - sounds good, and indeed like very little needs to move, merely web-admin UI dropped. I seem to recall seeing cases where a bunch of settings were crammed into one record by serialization; would make sense to fix those for the sanity of manipulation through SQL. | [16:29] |
| ossabot: | Logged on 2020-04-10 06:35:43 diana_coman: jfw: in short, no, I am not pushing for some db-extremism, everything lives in the db, db config itself and circular definitions be damned; I am however pushing for keeping configs to a minimum, for moving indeed ALL content (that includes the blog title and the tagline(s), ffs!) and for NOT carrying blindly over "knobs and settings" just because "users are used to them". | [16:29] |