| mircea_popescu: | i'm willing to pay 10k each, but that's about it. | [01:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | an' somebody'd better sell me 'em or else we're never finding out wtf these even do. | [01:49] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, I have 1 inconsequential sacrifice token and I have no problems parting with it for 10k ; it's 122q | [03:08] |
| diana_coman: | also: ~2.5k wwb and 1.5k wpl atm | [03:49] |
| Birdman: | jurov will need to deposit in a few hours, but no rush | [04:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | nice diana_coman | [07:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman nb, nb. make me 1/4 stacks, easier that way ? | [07:56] |
| diana_coman: | 2.5k you mean? faster for sure, yes | [07:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | no, i mean 1 stack of wpl 4 of wwb | [07:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | that'll be just enough for a measly ... 200 wine | [07:58] |
| diana_coman: | well, I'm picking both atm when I don't make tools basically | [08:07] |
| diana_coman: | but once again: ordinaries of wwb take canines so no way of getting that faster | [08:07] |
| diana_coman: | and otherwise it's been pretty constant at 1.5k wwb/8hrs so unless I get some pop, it will take a while | [08:08] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron> i was afraid my lumberjacking would have gone under 100 while i was busy tinkering, but nope! :D <- ftr I am focusing mainly on farming and otherwise mining rather in the hope of finding the bloody canines | [08:09] |
| danielpbarron: | yes and that would effect my building output.. | [08:09] |
| diana_coman: | well, not that much on lj from what I saw ; add to it that I had to tinker too unfortunately (and will still have to as I don't see anyone selling tools) | [08:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | wow so omfg, does this mean wine is 40/1.5 * 8 /200 = 1+ hours of miner time each ? | [08:10] |
| diana_coman: | well, if you overcraft it | [08:10] |
| diana_coman: | you can always undercraft it | [08:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm | [08:10] |
| diana_coman: | getting low q should mean higher quantity way faster | [08:10] |
| diana_coman: | you want BOTH high q AND huge quantity | [08:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | got any wwb remarkables yet ? | [08:10] |
| diana_coman: | nope | [08:11] |
| diana_coman: | I think I have ~30 ordinaries minimum | [08:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | see, i say this : keep doing what you do, once you find a r noob mine that. | [08:11] |
| diana_coman: | but no remarkables | [08:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | then i'll put in an order for low q csw and i'll uc the wine. | [08:11] |
| diana_coman: | what a well-thought plan that ASSUMES the remarkable is buildable | [08:11] |
| diana_coman: | lol | [08:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | is it unseen yet ? | [08:12] |
| diana_coman: | but yeah, anyway on farming that's what I mine: wpl and wwb | [08:12] |
| diana_coman: | as far as I know it's unseen | [08:12] |
| diana_coman: | oh, do you want that token? | [08:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah. | [08:13] |
| diana_coman: | kk, will get it out next time I get to town | [08:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | cool | [08:13] |
| diana_coman: | ftr I didn't even get a remarkable on wpl so far although some time ago I got a pop | [08:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | in other news : anyone want an order to make 5 US ? i got materials q > 150, it's tinkering. | [08:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | so each click should add ~450k or so of tink xp | [08:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | and in even other news : server going down for a few fixes in about five minutes | [08:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | expected to be down ~5 minutes. | [08:16] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, I can take that on same terms as previously (any q numina for the bv diff) | [08:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | you gonna have it noob crafted ? | [08:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | server is back, sorry for the interruption. | [08:26] |
| diana_coman: | no, not noob crafted | [08:26] |
| diana_coman: | but I have enough numina, lol | [08:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [08:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | what q do you make ? | [08:27] |
| diana_coman: | 123 now | [08:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | ponders | [08:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | 27\% in numina vs make it q158 and then get 8\% in mcguyver numina from the oc + 35\% more mcguyver xp. | [08:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | so is 19\% more numina worth more than 35\% more mcguyver xp ? | [08:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | yet another q i can't answer. | [08:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | here DicePower got something for you. riddle me that ? | [08:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman what do you think ? | [08:30] |
| diana_coman: | I don't really know what's the answer from your perspective: I have no idea what the numina are really worth as quantity for one thing | [08:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | well me either. | [08:32] |
| diana_coman: | all I know is that from my perspective the xp is worth giving away the numina low q that I can anyway get relatively easily at this time | [08:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | i don't actually have THAT much numina. | [08:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | i suppose this is yet another one of those : top crafter necessarily is short numina, will ahve to trade for it with other crafters | [08:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | damned socialism. | [08:33] |
| diana_coman: | ahahahah | [08:33] |
| diana_coman: | well, I get that numina from noob crafters anyway | [08:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah. so this is like you know, numina equivalent of the proton, moving backwards through the charged conductor. | [08:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | anywya, ima go for the deal. you want sb too or got your own ? ima need ~2 hrs to make the cordage. | [08:34] |
| diana_coman: | I'll be around in ~5hrs more likely so prolly best then | [08:35] |
| diana_coman: | how much sb do I need? | [08:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | 90 | [08:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | i got q 278 if memory serves. | [08:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | you'll also need 15 boulders, but you're on your own for those. | [08:36] |
| diana_coman: | aha, boulders np; I would have sb, but only 178q; I don't think it would make a huge diff though, so I am fine to use mine too | [08:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | any noob tinkerer got low q bct ? | [08:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | aite. | [08:37] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, I can actually sell 500 bct q7 | [08:37] |
| diana_coman: | want that? | [08:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | splendid, yea, and i want it now if possibru | [08:38] |
| diana_coman: | 1 min to take it out | [08:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | kk. sell me 71 cc bps too ? | [08:38] |
| diana_coman: | ugh | [08:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | saves me having to unload to go through my own storage lol | [08:38] |
| diana_coman: | well, q38 but being bps...125\% bv | [08:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | no prob. | [08:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | 378×1.25×71+1589×500 ×.8 = 669147.5 | [08:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | o no token ? | [08:40] |
| diana_coman: | oh drat, forgot that one | [08:40] |
| diana_coman: | will get it | [08:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | uh wrong item | [08:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | btc is 540 not 1589 | [08:41] |
| diana_coman: | ? | [08:41] |
| diana_coman: | ahahah, so it is | [08:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | 378×1.25×71+540×500 ×.8 = 249547.5 | [08:41] |
| diana_coman: | so 420k to give back to you, right? | [08:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | ye plox | [08:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | thankee. | [08:42] |
| diana_coman: | curious what you get from that token | [08:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | ima announce when i do the click. | [08:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | so far the bp situation is : i got all the needed bps ; i got 100 coal done ; i got all i need to make ampoules ; haven't yet looked at ink ; i got all i need to make the click except a) tools, which i'm working on hence the us production and wil lalso need to make some shoes and b) doubtful tomes, which i got all i need to make a few, but damned we need those canines already. | [08:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | eta ~two weeks for first click i would guess. | [08:44] |
| diana_coman: | do you have any mining ords? | [08:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | some, yeah. got 3 wwbs for instance. | [08:46] |
| diana_coman: | that's farming!!! | [08:46] |
| diana_coman: | AND it takes canine | [08:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh. no, i never done any mining. | [08:46] |
| diana_coman: | sigh | [08:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | well ? when! | [08:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | im chained to a fucking bum stove all day. and it smokes | [08:47] |
| diana_coman: | actually do you need wine for the bps at all? | [08:47] |
| diana_coman: | or is that a side thing? | [08:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | that was mostly to feed the sacrificers to make me more tokens\ | [08:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | which are needed. | [08:47] |
| diana_coman: | ah, but DO they sell tokens? | [08:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | notrly. | [08:47] |
| diana_coman: | because so far I gathered that no, they don't | [08:47] |
| diana_coman: | so then | [08:47] |
| diana_coman: | uhm | [08:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | well i figure they need me for wine, so eventually we'll come to some kjind of agreement eh. | [08:48] |
| diana_coman: | I'm better off increasing mining skill to stand a chance finding canines than farming wpl and wwb | [08:48] |
| diana_coman: | hm | [08:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | you think ? | [08:48] |
| diana_coman: | well, dunno really | [08:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | i can see both angles, tbh | [08:48] |
| diana_coman: | but if they don't sell the tokens then... | [08:48] |
| diana_coman: | I know, I can't quite decide, lol | [08:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | i plan to do something like "return token with each wine skin you get!" or something | [08:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | speaking of which, you still getting me tea ingredients danielpbarron ? | [08:49] |
| diana_coman: | heh, kind of reminds me of communist shops for some reason | [08:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | i ~could~ do that. | [08:49] |
| diana_coman: | well, if it's the only way to get tokens... | [08:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman figure this wonder, if i make him 100 teas or w/e he wanted that's another two days of crafting or some shit. | [08:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | i'm a serf! | [08:50] |
| diana_coman: | bwahaha, apparently that's what happens when one CAN do things - one has to do them, hence one is a serf ; lolz | [08:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | it's been almost a full week, i've been doing ~nothing but crafting non stop, churned millions of inventory, | [08:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | i'm maybe 30\% on the way there to doing that click already ? | [08:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman if you can, you must eh ? | [08:51] |
| diana_coman: | pretty much or so it would seem | [08:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | i feel so feminized ;/ | [08:51] |
| diana_coman: | as to the tinkering - at least it's not stuck or not yet, lol | [08:51] |
| diana_coman: | hi hi | [08:52] |
| mircea_popescu: | aw fuck. mp has low q cordage in inv, proceeds to make high q. | [09:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | dangit. | [09:01] |
| diana_coman: | knows that kind of mistake - sucks | [09:02] |
| fghj: | Anyone has high q cft for sale? | [09:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [09:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | i guess i could... aucton a batch eh. | [09:33] |
| fghj: | ok thanks to my superior bad planning ability I was out of cft but I loaded for a few days now | [09:41] |
| danielpbarron: | mircea_popescu> speaking of which, you still getting me tea ingredients danielpbarron ? << yep just need the nuts | [09:43] |
| danielpbarron: | mircea_popescu> i plan to do something like "return token with each wine skin you get!" or something << not intersted unless i have renuable altars; i'm not wasting clicks on basic sacrifices and the rare ones use way more than 1 wine per | [09:44] |
| danielpbarron: | speaking of the nuts, i think i would like that deal you proposed the other day, where i buy your locked small and ordinary pacademia nut claims | [09:45] |
| danielpbarron: | i think 3 ords (+ whatever smalls happen along the way) should do | [09:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | meanwhile got swamped with crafting stuff again. | [09:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron what are basic clicks ? and what do you like to click ? | [09:46] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, why not get the nut claims yourself? | [09:47] |
| diana_coman: | the location is public | [09:47] |
| diana_coman: | you prolly have higher lj by now too, don't you? | [09:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | i guess he should ? | [09:47] |
| diana_coman: | dunno, I am just trying to understand what is the problem | [09:47] |
| Blazsword: | Hi there! | [10:02] |
| Blazsword: | I recently found out about this game by searching bitcoin mmo. | [10:02] |
| Blazsword: | And i were wondering, how do i actually start this game? | [10:02] |
| Blazsword: | I cannot seem to find the .exe file for it. | [10:02] |
| Blazsword: | If anyone would be able to help me out as their back then that would be lovely! Thanks. | [10:06] |
| diana_coman: | hi Blazsword there are binaries | [10:07] |
| diana_coman: | what operating system are you on? | [10:07] |
| Blazsword: | I'm on windows | [10:08] |
| diana_coman: | aha, here: http://minigame.bz/jurov/ | [10:08] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Eulora Releases by Jurov (at minigame.bz) | [10:08] |
| Blazsword: | Beware tho, i'm not that really good when it comes to technical stuff like java and such heh. | [10:08] |
| Blazsword: | I'm on 64 bits thought. | [10:08] |
| diana_coman: | as far as I know you just need to get the archive, unzip it, read the readme and run | [10:09] |
| Blazsword: | Alright. | [10:10] |
| diana_coman: | however, you'll need to have also a gpg key | [10:10] |
| diana_coman: | got one? | [10:10] |
| Blazsword: | Gpg key? No never heard about it until now when you told me. | [10:10] |
| diana_coman: | Blazsword, if no gpg key yet, get yourself kleopatra | [10:11] |
| Blazsword: | How do i get one extacly? | [10:11] |
| diana_coman: | this looks like a step by step tutorial https://www.deepdotweb.com/2015/02/21/pgp-tutorial-for-windows-kleopatra-gpg4win/ | [10:11] |
| Blazsword: | exactly* | [10:11] |
| Blazsword: | Hmm, okay. How come i need a key like this? | [10:13] |
| diana_coman: | eulora allows only one account per person, where person is basically identified through their public key | [10:13] |
| diana_coman: | a pair public-private key effectively serves as an identity online | [10:14] |
| Blazsword: | Oh i see. | [10:14] |
| diana_coman: | so you need basically an online identity to get your free eulora account | [10:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman your so/cc is ready | [10:14] |
| diana_coman: | oh, goody, coming to town | [10:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | hey Blazsword | [10:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | you hit just in time, miner noobs are in high demand it seems. | [10:15] |
| Blazsword: | Oh? | [10:16] |
| diana_coman: | Blazsword, he means that it's a right time to join the game as there is demand for new people hence any new guy can make a pretty penny quite easily | [10:16] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, trade? | [10:17] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, bps? | [10:18] |
| diana_coman: | I don't have the bps | [10:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman 15 * 290349 * .15 + 35 * 3780 * 1.58 = 862319.25 | [10:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | and ill get bps in a sec! | [10:18] |
| diana_coman: | kk | [10:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | and wtf bs calc is that. | [10:18] |
| Blazsword: | Alright i have the login window open now. | [10:18] |
| diana_coman: | lol, I was just wondering wtf is that | [10:19] |
| diana_coman: | aha, Blazsword got your key pair? | [10:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | 15 * 290349 * 1.5 + 35 * 3780 * 1.58 = 6741886.5 rather. | [10:19] |
| Blazsword: | Nope still trying to figure that out Diana | [10:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman accept this, ill get the bps. | [10:19] |
| diana_coman: | after you get that, mircea_popescu can make you an account so that you can get in | [10:19] |
| diana_coman: | oh btw Blazsword hold on closely to your *private* key after you get it, whatever else you do | [10:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | 6741886.5 + 5 * .93 * 29035 = 6876899.25 < diana_coman | [10:20] |
| Blazsword: | Okay i will. | [10:21] |
| diana_coman: | ok mircea_popescu, will go with that as total bv received | [10:22] |
| Blazsword: | So i just do exactly as it is on the guide? | [10:22] |
| diana_coman: | yep, that guide walks you step by step to get everything installed and get your pair of keys | [10:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | pretty much yeah Blazsword | [10:23] |
| Blazsword: | Okay i have the key, so i send that in pm to you? | [10:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | nah, upload it to sks and register with assbot. isn't that in the guide ? | [10:25] |
| diana_coman: | I sent him a guide for win mircea_popescu | [10:25] |
| diana_coman: | to get him started since he is on windows really | [10:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha. how does kleopatra even work, has a cmd line ? | [10:26] |
| diana_coman: | http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets | [10:26] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] (at wiki.bitcoin-assets.com) | [10:26] |
| Blazsword: | I'm just confused at the moment haha. | [10:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | Blazsword eulora is pretty complex, so brace yourself for a lifetime of confusion | [10:26] |
| Blazsword: | So i need to register my nick first before using the code. | [10:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | sure. not that hard to do. | [10:29] |
| Blazsword: | Brb seems like i need to change name | [10:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman what do you figure, tomorrow ? | [10:33] |
| Gaxaro: | There we go, i did register now. | [10:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | wd Gaxaro | [10:34] |
| Gaxaro: | So i assume it's the public key and not the private key? | [10:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | what "it" ? | [10:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | the private key you're supposed to keep private and never share, ever. | [10:35] |
| Gaxaro: | Alright! | [10:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | the public key you upload to the keyservers. | [10:36] |
| Gaxaro: | okay i have the text document open with the public key | [10:36] |
| Gaxaro: | What now? | [10:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah you put it in here : | [10:36] |
| Gaxaro: | Right here in chat you mean? | [10:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://sks-keyservers.net:11371/#submit | [10:37] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: OpenPGP Keyserver: keys2.kfwebs.net (at sks-keyservers.net:11371) | [10:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | nah in that box. | [10:37] |
| Gaxaro: | Ah okay | [10:37] |
| Gaxaro: | Okay i just sent it | [10:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | cool. give it a few minutes to digest and then talk to assbot. | [10:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | !register [fingerprint with no spaces] that thing | [10:40] |
| Gaxaro: | Oh okay | [10:41] |
| Gaxaro: | Is it the key id? | [10:42] |
| Gaxaro: | Not sure what is the fingerprint lol | [10:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | whole fingerprint, lengthy string like seen here : http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/mircea_popescu/ | [10:42] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: mircea_popescu WoT Overview - Btc Alpha (at www.btcalpha.com) | [10:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/ << you can search for it here, or else instruct your gpg implementation to spit it out | [10:43] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: SKS OpenPGP Public Key Server (at pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371) | [10:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | not sure how that's done on windows tho. | [10:43] |
| Gaxaro: | Ohh i got it! | [10:44] |
| Gaxaro: | I have the fingerprint code thingy | [10:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | hey, pretty good :D | [10:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | is it fun ? | [10:44] |
| Gaxaro: | !register 48AA0C9A57A5E8773F3862DACFB8B44CD9628E47 | [10:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | say it in pm to assbot | [10:44] |
| Gaxaro: | oh xD | [10:44] |
| Gaxaro: | Hmm i dont see a name called assbot in the list | [10:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | doesn't matter just go /q assbot | [10:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | otherwise you can also join #bitcoin-assets it's in there. | [10:46] |
| Gaxaro: | oh seems like i still need to wait since it couldn't find my key | [10:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah give it a little. | [10:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | meanwhile you can read some of the guides etc. found any of that ? | [10:47] |
| Gaxaro: | Nope | [10:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | there's eulorum.org | [10:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | there's also diana's very good site, http://www.dianacoman.com/category/eulora/ | [10:48] |
| Gaxaro: | The game looks quite decent and i found it from reddit when i looked for bitcoin mmos | [10:54] |
| Gaxaro: | The only one i used to play was BitFantasy i think | [10:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah. graphically it's still being worked on a lot, but the economy is quite copmplex | [10:54] |
| lobbes: | welcome to Eulora, Gaxaro! One of the few games where you can actually leverage being a n00b to your advantage | [10:56] |
| Gaxaro: | Thanks. Games what i pretty been doing all my life haha. | [10:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | o hey, lobbes ! is that you ? | [10:59] |
| lobbes: | hey mircea_popescu. yeah, back from the dead lol | [11:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | just so you get an idea Gaxaro, hre's a recipe for an item we're making right now because it's involved in some new bp research : http://dianacoman.com/Eulora/Unsteady-Scaffolding.html | [11:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | check out that bill of materials lol. | [11:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | lobbes o hey, wb! | [11:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | can i lean on you do extend the bot some ? | [11:00] |
| Gaxaro: | Yay i did register now | [11:00] |
| lobbes: | mircea_popescu: yes, right now I'm trying to get it to parse log lines ala assbot. Is there a feature you'd prefer before any of the others? | [11:02] |
| Gaxaro: | Hmm still cant login? | [11:02] |
| Gaxaro: | I did register the key but somehow i still cannot login? | [11:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | one sec Gaxaro | [11:03] |
| Gaxaro: | Oh okay | [11:03] |
| DicePower: | The PGP key is not your password, it's just a right of passage to join the game ;) | [11:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | Gaxaro http://dpaste.com/0NCR1NQ.txt << decode that, you're good to go | [11:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | lobbes yes. i would like for there to be a command going !auction <string> <int(price)> <int(hours)> whereby lobbesbot announces that auction, repeats it once an hour (in a batch with all the others it has) and whenever someone asks, maintains a top bidder, by accepting !bid <int(coppers)> commands, and notifies winner and auctioneer of end result. | [11:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | THEN takes all the data from there, aggregates it, and publishes prices for all the items it has seen, by year/month/week | [11:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | how about THAT! | [11:06] |
| Gaxaro: | There we go. I am in. My name is Blaz Knight :D | [11:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | well done | [11:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | now find me in game i;ll give you some starter items. | [11:09] |
| Gaxaro: | Now to learn how to use the ingame camera¨ lol | [11:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | press m | [11:10] |
| Gaxaro: | Hmm not sure how i am gonna be able to find you lol | [11:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | im up on that hill | [11:14] |
| lobbes: | mircea_popescu: nifty! okay, that shall be my new bot-extension quest | [11:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | lobbes lovely! did you ever pick up your in-game prize btw ? | [11:14] |
| Gaxaro: | okay i did talk with the beginner npc at least lol | [11:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | wd :) | [11:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | lobbes aha i see you did. may consider auctioning them off, there's a crazy shortage of slithy tove. | [11:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | 198 he got diana_coman imagine that. | [11:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | THINK OF ALL THE SAMOVARS. | [11:16] |
| Gaxaro: | Hmm i somehow got myself stuck haha | [11:17] |
| Gaxaro: | oh nvm | [11:17] |
| lobbes: | interesting.. I may just do that lol. I dun think I've ever done an auction. | [11:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | can even be the inaugural auction of your bot extension :D | [11:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | use /pos Gaxaro | [11:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | im at 176 55 158 | [11:19] |
| Gaxaro: | Hmm | [11:24] |
| Gaxaro: | lol | [11:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | if you have foxybot installed you can just go /pilot 176 55 158 and it will point your nose towards me | [11:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | wb dpb | [11:25] |
| Gaxaro: | hmm says unknown command | [11:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | then no foxybot for you. get it later i guess. | [11:26] |
| Gaxaro: | How do i get it btw? | [11:27] |
| danielpbarron: | very odd, there was a planned (but nobody informed me) power outage for maintainance where i sit, and at the same time, the internet goes out where i run irc | [11:27] |
| Gaxaro: | might as well get it right now | [11:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron same router maybe ? | [11:27] |
| danielpbarron: | different counties | [11:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | weird. | [11:28] |
| danielpbarron: | ah i see the topic was fixed :D | [11:28] |
| Gaxaro: | Can you link me the foxybot? | [11:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | Gaxaro did you get jurov's latest windows packlage ? | [11:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | afaik it included it. | [11:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | o there you are. trade me! | [11:29] |
| Gaxaro: | Hmm nope? | [11:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | accept button is bottom left of window | [11:30] |
| danielpbarron: | while i'm gone two people joined? | [11:31] |
| danielpbarron: | nice | [11:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | at least one | [11:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | o yeah Azelphur too. two! | [11:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | hey copypaste ever got the game to work ? davout ? | [11:32] |
| Gaxaro: | Well now to figure out what to do haha | [11:38] |
| danielpbarron: | no i was here for Azelphur, i thought i saw another name; still catching up here | [11:39] |
| Gaxaro: | I'm still confused haha | [11:40] |
| danielpbarron: | what are basic clicks ? and what do you like to click ? << basic clicks on the altar are the sacrifices of resources like stones and thorns; I like rather to do the more expensive clicks on skill items | [11:41] |
| Gaxaro: | I'll think i need a mentor haha. | [11:43] |
| danielpbarron: | ah, Gaxaro is Blazword | [11:44] |
| Gaxaro: | Yup that's me. | [11:44] |
| Gaxaro: | Blaz knight that's me | [11:44] |
| Gaxaro: | ingame | [11:44] |
| Gaxaro: | Right now im just walking around endlessly haha | [11:46] |
| Gaxaro: | trying to click on trees and what not | [11:46] |
| danielpbarron: | lol | [11:47] |
| danielpbarron: | do you have the gathering skill? | [11:47] |
| Gaxaro: | Well mircea gave me some books that i used on myself | [11:47] |
| danielpbarron: | so type /explore | [11:47] |
| Gaxaro: | ohhh | [11:48] |
| danielpbarron: | did you get any tools? | [11:48] |
| Gaxaro: | I got a stone axe | [11:48] |
| Gaxaro: | Also this foxybot could you give me the download for it? | [11:49] |
| danielpbarron: | go to coords -138.00 55.00 279.00 with the adze equipped and type /explore | [11:50] |
| Gaxaro: | I need the foxybot thought so i can pilot haha | [11:50] |
| danielpbarron: | you don't ~need~ pilot but it sure does help | [11:50] |
| danielpbarron: | you do have /pos | [11:50] |
| Gaxaro: | Well pilot would help me a lot lol | [11:50] |
| danielpbarron: | but yeah you'll want foxybot, and wasn't it already linked to you? | [11:50] |
| Gaxaro: | Nope it wasn't | [11:51] |
| danielpbarron: | i don't know how to instruct a winbl0ws user | [11:51] |
| Gaxaro: | Can you link it for me? and oh okay lol | [11:51] |
| danielpbarron: | i think it's as simple as do whatever you already did, but with the binary that includes the bot | [11:51] |
| danielpbarron: | aha | [11:53] |
| danielpbarron: | http://minigame.bz/jurov/ Gaxaro | [11:53] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Eulora Releases by Jurov (at minigame.bz) | [11:53] |
| DicePower: | Winbl0ws is the best. Most platform specific programs work perfectly on Winbl0ws. >_> | [11:53] |
| danielpbarron: | no. | [11:53] |
| danielpbarron: | it is the worst. and only a few programs just barely work on it | [11:53] |
| danielpbarron: | specifically programs maintained by people in here | [11:54] |
| danielpbarron: | the rest are 'apps' | [11:54] |
| danielpbarron: | USG malware generally | [11:54] |
| DicePower: | lol | [11:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | tell it like it is brother. | [11:54] |
| DicePower: | And speaking of Winbl0ws... | [11:55] |
| Gaxaro: | Pretty hard to find the exact position i need to head too without pilot lol | [11:55] |
| DicePower: | jurov: Are you here atm/available to help with Eulora compiling instructions? | [11:56] |
| DicePower: | I'm on step 4 and things are getting a bit confusing to me :P | [11:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | what's step 4, asking for forgiveness ? | [11:56] |
| DicePower: | Step 4 is opening Linux on VirtualBox >_> | [11:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | o.O | [11:57] |
| DicePower: | 4. Checkout CrystalSpace (revision 39798). Manually apply revision 39918 to fix crashes (patch available here). | [11:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | got it ? | [11:58] |
| DicePower: | I sure hope "checkout CrystalSpace" doesn't mean "gain a basic understanding of 3-D animation programming :P | [11:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | iirc it's saved on http://minigame.bz/eulora/source too | [11:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | no, checkout from git | [11:58] |
| DicePower: | The link to the code block is there. | [11:58] |
| DicePower: | I just have NO idea what to do with it. | [11:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | save it in your project somewhere | [11:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | prferrably under /CS/ iirc | [11:59] |
| DicePower: | There is no Visual Studio project yet though at this point. Do I create a new one, or am I downloading one with the game's source code later? | [12:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | i have never used visual studio, have absolutely no idea how it works. | [12:01] |
| DicePower: | kk | [12:01] |
| DicePower: | "<mircea_popescu> no, checkout from git" Does this require some action on my part? | [12:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | https://git-scm.com/docs/git-checkout | [12:02] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Git - git-checkout Documentation (at git-scm.com) | [12:02] |
| DicePower: | ahhh | [12:03] |
| DicePower: | Need video version of this tutorial lol | [12:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman for your own recipe page : Worn Old Screens 7 GT 1 US ; Turning Wheel 1-2 BTK Bundle 1 US 1 PB | [12:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | DicePower good time as any to move to linux. | [12:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | the ubuntu compile guide on eulorum is quite straightforward. | [12:08] |
| DicePower: | Does it work on Zorin? | [12:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | what is zorin | [12:09] |
| DicePower: | http://zorinos.com/ | [12:09] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Zorin OS - Home (at zorinos.com) | [12:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh ubuntu for windows ppl. | [12:09] |
| DicePower: | A beautiful OS | [12:09] |
| DicePower: | That looks like Windows :D | [12:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha. should work, never been tested for eulora specifically. but i'd be interested to hear how it works. | [12:09] |
| DicePower: | I have a really old machine that I could try it on. | [12:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | does it have a functional gfx card ? | [12:10] |
| DicePower: | ATI HD 4650 | [12:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | should work. | [12:11] |
| DicePower: | I thought it was a goner for many years, turns out it just needs a powerful dusting. | [12:12] |
| DicePower: | I think I turned half the Windows services off when trying to fix it (was turning off all the time). | [12:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | sounds like overheating mb/cpu ya | [12:12] |
| DicePower: | And I probably don't have the disks needed to format Windows. | [12:13] |
| DicePower: | So was thinking about putting Zorin on it. | [12:13] |
| DicePower: | Even if I messed something up partitioning the HD or something it wouldn't be a big deal. | [12:13] |
| DicePower: | Not sure how much low level stuff you have to do to get Linux | [12:13] |
| DicePower: | I've only ever used it on a Virtual Machine. | [12:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | ubuntu ? not really much at all. | [12:14] |
| DicePower: | Imma try it now I think. | [12:15] |
| DicePower: | Any tips for not messing something up? | [12:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | can't hurt. | [12:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | i'd be really surprised if you somehow manage. | [12:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | to mess anything up, i mean. | [12:15] |
| DicePower: | sweet | [12:16] |
| danielpbarron: | why in the.. would you want your computer to ~look~ like winbl0ws | [12:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | found anything Gaxaro ? | [12:16] |
| danielpbarron: | heh he's trying to figure out foxybot right near where i am | [12:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | :p | [12:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | im curious what q he gets, with skill 1. | [12:16] |
| DicePower: | Because the Winbl0ws 7 interface is good :P | [12:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | guessing like 3 maybe ? or 5 | [12:17] |
| Gaxaro: | Mircea nah i haven't found anything yet | [12:17] |
| danielpbarron: | the winbl0ws interface is retarded | [12:17] |
| danielpbarron: | "start" menu .. why? | [12:17] |
| danielpbarron: | the newer thing is ever worse, made for touchscreens | [12:18] |
| danielpbarron: | who even needs an operating system to look like anything | [12:18] |
| Gaxaro: | mircea_popescu okay i just found something | [12:20] |
| danielpbarron: | thorns or snails? | [12:20] |
| Gaxaro: | thorns | [12:20] |
| danielpbarron: | cool | [12:20] |
| danielpbarron: | you should try that coords i gave you earlier | [12:20] |
| danielpbarron: | find me some nuts :D | [12:20] |
| DicePower: | Yeah I don't like the touchscreen interface | [12:20] |
| Gaxaro: | 158 thorns | [12:20] |
| danielpbarron: | not bad! | [12:20] |
| DicePower: | One of the reasons why I stick to 7. | [12:20] |
| DicePower: | The start menu is super handy though | [12:21] |
| danielpbarron: | a terminal is super handy | [12:21] |
| danielpbarron: | start menus are annoying | [12:21] |
| DicePower: | Okay, maybe I'll just use Unix instead ;) | [12:21] |
| danielpbarron: | i recommend gentoo | [12:21] |
| DicePower: | I bet you don't have a lot of people coming in asking if Eulora runs on Bash. | [12:22] |
| danielpbarron: | trinque made a very nifty "auto installer" to build it without all the crud | [12:22] |
| danielpbarron: | i run Eulora from terminal actually | [12:22] |
| danielpbarron: | how else? | [12:22] |
| Gaxaro: | okay got some more throns | [12:23] |
| DicePower: | Terminal requires more memorization to do things that are intuitive on GUI :P | [12:23] |
| danielpbarron: | you probably ranked up, but it's still an open question whether you should pay for training or not | [12:23] |
| danielpbarron: | no, you are just suffering from a learning disability probably due to having growin up in the USA | [12:23] |
| danielpbarron: | terminal is more intuitive and easier | [12:24] |
| danielpbarron: | Gaxaro, just know this, if you pay for training, as you rank up you will get less and less items from your claims | [12:25] |
| danielpbarron: | they will be higher quality, but seeing as how quality 5 stuff sold as if it were quality 107 yesterday, you probably don't want to rank up just yet | [12:25] |
| danielpbarron: | you don't want thorns though | [12:25] |
| Gaxaro: | oh okay | [12:25] |
| danielpbarron: | i don't think anyone wants low quality thorns | [12:25] |
| danielpbarron: | but get me low quality nuts i'll buy them | [12:26] |
| Gaxaro: | pos? | [12:26] |
| danielpbarron: | -138.00 55.00 279.00 | [12:26] |
| Gaxaro: | Strange.. it just tells me autopilot done | [12:28] |
| Gaxaro: | without going anywhere | [12:29] |
| danielpbarron: | that's correct | [12:29] |
| danielpbarron: | it just points you in the directin | [12:29] |
| danielpbarron: | press 'r' | [12:29] |
| Gaxaro: | oh okay | [12:30] |
| danielpbarron: | and press up,enter occasionally to pilot again | [12:30] |
| Gaxaro: | Hmm it says ouch that hurts when i am exploreing | [13:01] |
| Gaxaro: | weird | [13:01] |
| Gaxaro: | How come? | [13:01] |
| Gaxaro: | Also how do i heal myself? | [13:02] |
| fghj: | you don't you just die | [13:23] |
| fghj: | but not permanently yet | [13:23] |
| diana_coman: | Gaxaro, hurt is because you are exploring bare-handed | [13:29] |
| diana_coman: | when you can't explore anymore, just type /die | [13:29] |
| diana_coman: | kill yourself as it's not permanent | [13:29] |
| diana_coman: | you'll just froze for a bit and then you are good to go again | [13:29] |
| diana_coman: | you won't lose anything in your inventory either | [13:29] |
| diana_coman: | and btw, the bot does that too if you just start it to explore/mine barehanded | [13:30] |
| diana_coman: | DicePower> I bet you don't have a lot of people coming in asking if Eulora runs on Bash. <- pretty much everyone I know around here playing Eulora for a significant amount of time would rather love a text-only client | [13:30] |
| danielpbarron: | oh that's what he meant? Yes I would absolutely love such a thing | [13:32] |
| DicePower: | That's not exactly what I meant, but interesting ideed | [14:06] |
| DicePower: | indeed | [14:06] |
| fghj: | Auction of 8x9999 of q5 grass start from 3.81M to +3h | [14:16] |
| jurov: | Birdman: ping me | [14:36] |
| jurov: | fghj: 4M | [14:37] |
| diana_coman: | 4.2mn for the grass fghj | [14:38] |
| jurov: | and my claim with all the flotsams and sr and rf ..vanished, yay | [14:40] |
| jurov: | i double check i'm locking it, apparently that won't help | [14:41] |
| jurov: | mircea_popescu: no slag for ya, sorry | [14:41] |
| jurov: | diana_coman: danielpbarron: how do you actually store heavy stuff? | [14:44] |
| diana_coman: | jurov, was that a tiny claim? | [14:44] |
| diana_coman: | I personally still use storage because that is the ONLY safe way | [14:45] |
| jurov: | no, small | [14:45] |
| diana_coman: | claims are risky | [14:45] |
| jurov: | do you have a bot to retrieve stuff from storage? | [14:45] |
| diana_coman: | as far as I know there has been the clear statement some time ago that ALL claims go away after some time - it's only that they take longer | [14:45] |
| diana_coman: | no, I still do that manually, sucks, yes | [14:45] |
| diana_coman: | I got fast at it with lots of practice I suppose, lol | [14:45] |
| diana_coman: | but yeah, it would do for a nice bot command I suppose | [14:46] |
| jurov: | well, i have small claims older than this one was, that refuse to go away despite being empty and mined | [14:46] |
| diana_coman: | I think there is something fishy depending on keys - I had some like that and they went away only after server reset basically | [14:46] |
| jurov: | if i have to click like an idiot to get stuff out of storage, then i am *not* playing. | [14:49] |
| diana_coman: | you don't have to for sure - as I said, it's a nice bot feature, go ahead | [14:50] |
| jurov: | no thanks, i have my share of dealing with insane APIs | [14:51] |
| jurov: | already | [14:52] |
| diana_coman: | well, I suppose you can also wait until there will be the npcs that do that for payment or something | [15:00] |
| jurov: | i have tried several times to sit and do something with the code and... i just can't :( | [15:00] |
| diana_coman: | oh | [15:00] |
| diana_coman: | honestly atm I can't promise I'll really get around any time really soon to do something else about the bot | [15:01] |
| diana_coman: | there is the storage part in there, it's not as if it's from scratch | [15:01] |
| diana_coman: | but I'm a bit caught up in a lot of things atm | [15:01] |
| jurov: | i understand, me too | [15:07] |
| Gaxaro: | But yeah im still a noob at this game xD | [15:33] |
| Gaxaro: | So how does /bot explore work? | [15:35] |
| Gaxaro: | Anyone on? | [15:39] |
| fghj: | I duno the details I just do /bot explore n | [15:42] |
| fghj: | where n times I want to auto explore | [15:42] |
| Gaxaro: | oh | [15:43] |
| Gaxaro: | How comes it tells me ouch that hurts everytime i explore something? | [15:43] |
| fghj: | apparently there are line/grid patterns timeouts and some other time dk what | [15:43] |
| fghj: | it hurts because you did'nt put tool in your hand | [15:44] |
| Gaxaro: | I need more tools, i only have stone axe xD | [15:44] |
| fghj: | did you het this tool is not useful message? | [15:45] |
| fghj: | *get | [15:45] |
| Gaxaro: | yes | [15:45] |
| fghj: | yep, so either explore by hand or go buy another one | [15:46] |
| diana_coman: | Gaxaro, everything in eulora has a cost | [15:46] |
| Gaxaro: | Ah okay. | [15:46] |
| diana_coman: | for explore, that cost is either tool decay | [15:46] |
| diana_coman: | or person decay as it were | [15:46] |
| diana_coman: | anyway, what resources are you gathering now? | [15:47] |
| Gaxaro: | Well i only have 306 thorns on me right now lol | [15:47] |
| diana_coman: | listen, have a look at this: http://www.dianacoman.com/Eulora/index.html | [15:47] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Euloran Cookbook Version 1.2 (at www.dianacoman.com) | [15:47] |
| diana_coman: | you have there all the resources known so far | [15:47] |
| diana_coman: | harvestable resources | [15:47] |
| diana_coman: | those basic are the ones you are best off mining right now | [15:48] |
| diana_coman: | and especially grass, flotsam, shiny rock | [15:48] |
| Gaxaro: | Hmm okay.. | [15:48] |
| diana_coman: | basically any quantity of any of those will be bought off you as soon as you put it on offer | [15:48] |
| diana_coman: | and for that matter you'll get a very good price for them | [15:48] |
| diana_coman: | for building you need at least cft (threads) | [15:49] |
| diana_coman: | got enough still? | [15:49] |
| Gaxaro: | Yeah i have 26 thread on me still | [15:49] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, that's not enough, lol | [15:49] |
| diana_coman: | I'm in the middle of a big craft so can't really trade right now | [15:49] |
| diana_coman: | but I'll set you up with some thread and you go mining some shiny rock, will you? | [15:50] |
| diana_coman: | have a look at that link on the page for shiny rock as there is a set of coordinates | [15:50] |
| diana_coman: | so that you can find it | [15:50] |
| Gaxaro: | Yeah i will do that | [15:50] |
| diana_coman: | go and mine with that 26 thread you have so that you get some shiny rock and I'll buy it off you when you get back and give you more thread and/or tools as you need | [15:51] |
| Gaxaro: | Okay cool! | [15:51] |
| diana_coman: | meanwhile read the vocabulary part at least (if nothing else) from here: http://www.eulorum.org/Eulora | [15:51] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Eulorum (at www.eulorum.org) | [15:51] |
| diana_coman: | and again, if you read just one post from the eulora cat on my blog, make it this one: http://www.dianacoman.com/2015/10/22/the-unbearably-unknown-value-of-things-in-eulora/ | [15:52] |
| Gaxaro: | Hmm okay! | [15:53] |
| Gaxaro: | I'm at those houses at the moment where the campfire is with this strange door going into a building? | [15:54] |
| diana_coman: | that's the graveyard, lol | [15:54] |
| diana_coman: | but no, shiny rock is not there | [15:54] |
| diana_coman: | there's moss there | [15:54] |
| diana_coman: | and some dcs (crab shells) | [15:54] |
| Gaxaro: | I know, but how i am supposed to mine without a tool and i am almost dead by all that ouch that hurt message lol | [15:54] |
| diana_coman: | so type /die | [15:54] |
| diana_coman: | I did say that before, lol | [15:55] |
| diana_coman: | get used to go and read the logs of this chan too, lots of info discussed http://logs.minigame.bz/latest.log.html | [15:55] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: #Eulora log for Saturday, 2016-02-20 (at logs.minigame.bz) | [15:55] |
| diana_coman: | Gaxaro, managed to kill yourself ? | [15:56] |
| Gaxaro: | Nah | [15:56] |
| diana_coman: | (it won't hurt, lol) | [15:56] |
| diana_coman: | the other option is to go and throw yourself off the cliffs, but it's really way simpler to just type /die | [15:56] |
| diana_coman: | lol | [15:56] |
| Gaxaro: | Okay i killed myself lol | [15:56] |
| diana_coman: | aha, well done you, lol | [15:56] |
| diana_coman: | just wait a bit and you'll be back springy and full of life as ever | [15:57] |
| diana_coman: | btw, the bot knows to kill your character too if needed | [15:57] |
| diana_coman: | so you can just start the bot empty-handed and it will do its job | [15:57] |
| Gaxaro: | Just do /bot explore 100 and it will do the thing for me? | [15:58] |
| diana_coman: | or /bot explore 100 line 10 1 7 for instance | [15:59] |
| diana_coman: | so that it tries 100 times going in a line of 10 steps | [15:59] |
| diana_coman: | so 10 steps forward then 10 back then repeat | [15:59] |
| diana_coman: | basically /bot explore 1000 line 10 1 7 means: go explore 100 times in a line of 10 steps, leaving the keys back in the claim after build (flip that 1 to 0 if you want to keep the keys but be aware that your inventory can become full) using 7 threads to build each small claim | [16:00] |
| diana_coman: | otherwise with 100 steps you might get out of the shiny rock area I suppose, it depends on where you start exactly | [16:01] |
| Gaxaro: | Hmm okay. | [16:01] |
| Gaxaro: | so 10 steps does the 10 mean | [16:01] |
| diana_coman: | basically the bot has some default values for all its parameters, so yes, it can work as simply as /bot explore 100 | [16:01] |
| Gaxaro: | and 1 is 1 second? | [16:01] |
| diana_coman: | no, 1 means "leave keys in claim after build" | [16:02] |
| diana_coman: | put there 0 instead, if you want to keep the keys | [16:02] |
| Gaxaro: | Do i need the claim anymore after i find it? | [16:03] |
| diana_coman: | after you build it - no | [16:03] |
| diana_coman: | each claim can be built onle once | [16:03] |
| diana_coman: | and after a while it will vanish | [16:03] |
| Gaxaro: | and the 7 stands for? | [16:04] |
| diana_coman: | the keys of old claims turn into little bits of nothing when their claims vanish | [16:04] |
| diana_coman: | 7 threads to use when building a claim | [16:04] |
| Gaxaro: | oh okay i got it | [16:04] |
| diana_coman: | iirc that is the default value | [16:04] |
| diana_coman: | you can build a small claim with anything between 1 and 7 threads basically | [16:04] |
| diana_coman: | but you probably want to use 7 | [16:04] |
| diana_coman: | to get maximum out of the claim | [16:04] |
| Gaxaro: | okay im doing /bot explore 100 10 1 7 now | [16:05] |
| diana_coman: | how's it going? | [16:05] |
| Gaxaro: | Well it's going in a straight line backward and sometimes forward | [16:06] |
| Gaxaro: | but still in a straight line | [16:06] |
| diana_coman: | yes, "line" means straight line, no? | [16:06] |
| diana_coman: | ah, you skipped the line param, lol | [16:06] |
| Gaxaro: | woops yeah i forgot that haha | [16:06] |
| fghj: | bot can do funny stuff after you die or wore out tool if you see weird things going on use /bot stop or else it might move on without building | [16:06] |
| diana_coman: | listen, the bot reads them in order so then it took "10" for "line" and it used default there (which should be line indeed) and then as a result "1" for number of steps | [16:07] |
| diana_coman: | as a rule of thumb, you can always use /bot reset best fghj | [16:08] |
| diana_coman: | it's fine with /bot stop too, but it might end up sometimes in a messy step, so best /bot reset if you want to give it another job afterwards | [16:08] |
| Gaxaro: | I think i did it correctly now | [16:08] |
| diana_coman: | heh, gets a bit using to, but it's a life saver and it can literally do the work for you, lol | [16:09] |
| Gaxaro: | It seems like it's going 10 steps forward now and then once 10 steps forward is done it goes backward 10 steps | [16:12] |
| diana_coman: | yes | [16:13] |
| Gaxaro: | So i just let it keep doing that until it finds something? | [16:13] |
| diana_coman: | unless you want to click yourself I suppose? | [16:14] |
| diana_coman: | did you find those thorns with the tool? | [16:14] |
| diana_coman: | or barehanded? | [16:14] |
| Gaxaro: | tool | [16:14] |
| diana_coman: | aha, well, it will be faster with a tool for sure, that's the point | [16:14] |
| diana_coman: | basically the decay of a tool is worth more than your fingers | [16:14] |
| diana_coman: | (from the game's perspective, even if you might disagree as the finger-owner character, lol) | [16:15] |
| Gaxaro: | Thought will i eventually find something in this 10 steps line back and forth doing this? | [16:15] |
| diana_coman: | you should, but I have no idea after how many tries | [16:15] |
| diana_coman: | what position did you go to? | [16:16] |
| Gaxaro: | that -56 postion | [16:16] |
| diana_coman: | you should find something eventually, yes | [16:16] |
| Gaxaro: | Hmm nothing so far lol | [16:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | Gaxaro feel free to walk the land tool in hand, | [16:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | you're not obliged to botmine | [16:25] |
| Gaxaro: | well that tool i cannot use anymore because it has 0 uses now | [16:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | oh | [16:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | did you get anything out of the ground ? i'll prolly buy it | [16:26] |
| Gaxaro: | well 306 thorns i have haha | [16:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | what quality ? | [16:27] |
| Gaxaro: | No idea | [16:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | right click the thorns | [16:29] |
| Gaxaro: | oh quality 5 | [16:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | 306 * 158 * .8 = 38678.4 | [16:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | i'll give ya 40k for it. | [16:29] |
| Gaxaro: | 304* thorns | [16:30] |
| Gaxaro: | okay | [16:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | and ill also pay 2k on your worn out tool. | [16:30] |
| Gaxaro: | meet me at that -56 shiny rock postion | [16:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | nah i can't move around, im crafting | [16:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | you'll have to come back to me. | [16:31] |
| Gaxaro: | oh okay | [16:31] |
| Gaxaro: | what is your pos again? | [16:31] |
| diana_coman: | Gaxaro, 174 57 159 | [16:32] |
| diana_coman: | that's in the village | [16:32] |
| diana_coman: | better write that down somewhere | [16:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | eh eventually you'll learn your way around, isn't too hard. | [16:33] |
| Gaxaro: | Done | [16:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | do you want to buy more tools or anything ? | [16:33] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu, one us is ready; do you want them as they come or all of them when done? | [16:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | all together. | [16:34] |
| diana_coman: | aha, that's prolly tomorrow evening though as it doesn't make sense to leave it overnight on this | [16:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | kk. | [16:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | no particular rush have tons more things to od. | [16:35] |
| danielpbarron: | jurov> diana_coman: danielpbarron: how do you actually store heavy stuff? << i use storage as like what diana said claims are risky, although i do have an ordinary out in the water with flotsam and branches in it; you might be better off using a craft table in town as they don't seem to get cleaned up, especially if people are standing next to it all day | [16:42] |
| jurov: | and then one day server gets hit by network problem and ... *poof* | [16:45] |
| danielpbarron: | diana_coman> the keys of old claims turn into little bits of nothing when their claims vanish << if you noobs wanna save up keys and turn them into bits, i'll buy them from ya | [16:46] |
| diana_coman: | for that matter one can also go around and looking into claims that lie around as some of them have the keys in so one can get some free keys too | [16:47] |
| danielpbarron: | Gaxaro> It seems like it's going 10 steps forward now and then once 10 steps forward is done it goes backward 10 steps << you might notice that my bot was also going sideways; that's because i modified the source code to fix the built in but not intuitive 'grid' method | [16:47] |
| Gaxaro: | Cool i found 206 shiny rocks lol | [16:48] |
| mircea_popescu: | wd! | [16:48] |
| Gaxaro: | quality 7 | [16:48] |
| danielpbarron: | Gaxaro> well 306 thorns i have haha << lol here's a tip : don't just 'sell' things to the first person who makes an offer; you can usually get more if you announce an auction in here | [16:49] |
| diana_coman: | well done Gaxaro | [16:50] |
| danielpbarron: | i would bid on those shiny rock for example | [16:50] |
| danielpbarron: | although 200 isn't a spectacular amount or anything | [16:50] |
| diana_coman: | keep going - shiny rocks will be bought around here in huge quantities | [16:50] |
| danielpbarron: | Gaxaro> quality 7 << actually a ~bad~ thing because higher quality means you'll get ~less~ from each claim, and we buy them at the price of 100 quality or more regardless of how low they are | [16:51] |
| diana_coman: | on the same page where you found the location of shiny rock, you'll also see a base value for it - that is the "value" for 1 item of quality 100 | [16:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron really q 7 pays a little more than q 5 | [16:53] |
| danielpbarron: | http://www.eulorum.org/User_talk:Danielpbarron << uber-list of base values | [16:53] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: User talk:Danielpbarron - Eulorum (at www.eulorum.org) | [16:53] |
| danielpbarron: | i suppose but would it be enough to make up for getting less? | [16:54] |
| danielpbarron: | to be honest when i was bidding on them the other day i wasn't taking into account their quality at all | [16:54] |
| Gaxaro: | Someone said i could earn a pretty penny as a noob miner for people lol | [16:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | Gaxaro well... some of the more dedicated noobs do make millionz | [16:58] |
| Gaxaro: | Cool. | [16:59] |
| Gaxaro: | I remember earning 0.1 bitcoin 1 year ago from some bitcoin game lol | [16:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | .1 btc is 10mn ECu | [17:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | so a ways to go yet. | [17:00] |
| Gaxaro: | Or maybe it was one of those dice games | [17:00] |
| Gaxaro: | Not sure to be honest lol | [17:00] |
| diana_coman: | Gaxaro, read perhaps through the logs and look for the trades to give you an idea of what money can be made and on what (as a hint: check out those on low q grass (cdg), flotsam, shiny rock for instance) | [17:05] |
| danielpbarron: | Gaxaro, you can make 0.1 easy here | [17:13] |
| danielpbarron: | 4.41mn on the grass | [17:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | what grass is this ?! | [17:14] |
| fghj: | mine probably? | [17:14] |
| danielpbarron: | 4 stacks of 5 q | [17:15] |
| danielpbarron: | Gaxaro, ^^ worth more like 250k | [17:15] |
| danielpbarron: | selling for millions | [17:15] |
| fghj: | no wait not mine I have 8 stacks | [17:15] |
| danielpbarron: | wait huh | [17:15] |
| danielpbarron: | oh yeah 8 my bad | [17:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | fghj> Auction of 8x9999 of q5 grass start from 3.81M to +3h << nice eh o.O | [17:16] |
| danielpbarron: | i can't wait for you noobs to flood this market and i don't have to bid it up this high | [17:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | meanwhile, 4 mn is what, 12 bux ? | [17:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | pizza! | [17:17] |
| danielpbarron: | over 2 days worth of thread crafting | [17:20] |
| fghj: | I think 3h has about passed so dpb is a winner | [17:20] |
| danielpbarron: | shweet | [17:20] |
| danielpbarron: | oh wow yeah i got my bid in with 2 minutes to spare | [17:20] |
| danielpbarron: | didn't even notice that | [17:21] |
| Gaxaro: | Can i bot in different directions too? | [17:21] |
| danielpbarron: | there is a 'grid' method but unless you modify the source code it will just keep going forward | [17:21] |
| danielpbarron: | i modified mine to keep to a square | [17:21] |
| danielpbarron: | but it's kinda annoying, only works well on flat ground | [17:22] |
| danielpbarron: | if there is any slope nearby it will slowly creep up the hill | [17:22] |
| Gaxaro: | oh im just doing back and worth in a line 20 steps lol | [17:22] |
| danielpbarron: | i actually use foxybot plus an xmacro in order to do fancy bot mining | [17:22] |
| danielpbarron: | and i think foxy using a modified version that does a similar thing | [17:22] |
| danielpbarron: | uses* | [17:23] |
| danielpbarron: | some sort of circular method | [17:23] |
| danielpbarron: | i saw a switch line for it that isn't used yet in my code | [17:23] |
| Gaxaro: | found 379 shiny rock so far | [17:23] |
| danielpbarron: | thank you fghj ! | [17:25] |
| danielpbarron: | Gaxaro, that'll sell for at least 25k | [17:25] |
| danielpbarron: | which will buy you at least 1 more tool and enough threads to go with it | [17:25] |
| danielpbarron: | eventually if you can work your way up to like 50 spare tools you can just leave it running overnight | [17:26] |
| danielpbarron: | or you can buy some coppers into the game via jurov to get a head start on that | [17:26] |
| fghj: | actually that would reqire some auto tableloader | [17:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | reads the log with excitement | [17:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | hey, my game comes with a game inside! | [17:27] |
| danielpbarron: | auto table loader? | [17:27] |
| danielpbarron: | i wouldn't worry too much about mixing the qualities | [17:28] |
| danielpbarron: | if that's what you mean | [17:28] |
| Gaxaro: | Sadly i dont have money to buy copper haha | [17:28] |
| danielpbarron: | i keep them separate when i do ords since i'm doing those manually anyway | [17:28] |
| fghj: | in case of grass i have to offload every 15min in case of flotsam every small claim | [17:28] |
| danielpbarron: | Gaxaro, well all that means is you spend the next week or so doing some manual labor to build up that capital | [17:28] |
| danielpbarron: | well shiny rock is a lot lighter | [17:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | than grass ? no way. | [17:29] |
| danielpbarron: | hm | [17:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | grass is like the lightest, blessfully. | [17:29] |
| danielpbarron: | i think reeds is lighter | [17:29] |
| danielpbarron: | i can hold almost half a stack of that | [17:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | incidentally danielpbarron selling any cft ? | [17:29] |
| diana_coman: | oh, fghj the code can be easily changed to put the things in a claim and lock it when you are overweight | [17:29] |
| diana_coman: | and then move on | [17:29] |
| diana_coman: | at the end you just go through the claims standing and collect | [17:29] |
| danielpbarron: | mircea_popescu, probably not at a price you like | [17:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | i can't wait for you noobs to flood danielpbarron market too and i don't have to not like his prices! | [17:30] |
| diana_coman: | awww DicePowerless got to actually see the game ? | [17:30] |
| danielpbarron: | well i can't see lowering them when it ties me up for 2 days getting almost no exp | [17:30] |
| diana_coman: | bwaahahahah mircea_popescu | [17:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [17:30] |
| danielpbarron: | maybe if i get some high quality stuff that actually ranks me up as i go | [17:30] |
| diana_coman: | I thought YOU were going to auction some cft! | [17:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | but but but. | [17:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | eh okay! | [17:30] |
| danielpbarron: | thing is noobs buy my threads at my current prices so why would i lower them? | [17:31] |
| diana_coman: | I will auction mine if you auction yours!! | [17:31] |
| diana_coman: | omg yo noobs don't overpay!! | [17:31] |
| diana_coman: | lolz | [17:31] |
| danielpbarron: | i have a convenience store | [17:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | selling 9936 cft q 157, starting 2.8mm, will go for a day. | [17:31] |
| danielpbarron: | 2.8 mn here | [17:32] |
| diana_coman: | 3mn | [17:32] |
| Gaxaro: | Does it work to macro bind key "command" then? | [17:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | selling 9936 cft q 157, starting 3mm heard diana_coman , eta 19:30 art | [17:32] |
| danielpbarron: | 3.15 mn | [17:32] |
| diana_coman: | 3.5mn | [17:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | selling 9936 cft q 157, starting 3.5mn heard diana_coman , eta 19:30 art | [17:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | Gaxaro 379* 79 * .8 = 23952.8 | [17:34] |
| Gaxaro: | alright | [17:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | got change ? | [17:34] |
| danielpbarron: | shouldn'ta bid firston that one :/ | [17:34] |
| Gaxaro: | yeah i do | [17:34] |
| Gaxaro: | how much you need? | [17:34] |
| danielpbarron: | dude. | [17:34] |
| danielpbarron: | auction it! | [17:34] |
| danielpbarron: | i would pay more | [17:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | Gaxaro 6k | [17:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | danielpbarron eh shush, what more, atm top q cft is at 125\% | [17:35] |
| Gaxaro: | let me see how to do this currency | [17:35] |
| Gaxaro: | im new to it haha | [17:35] |
| danielpbarron: | Gaxaro, when you get several thousand you should auction it though | [17:35] |
| Gaxaro: | okay | [17:35] |
| danielpbarron: | a couple hundred isn't worth it i guess | [17:36] |
| DicePower: | diana_coman: Well I've seen the first hill and the orb :P | [17:36] |
| Gaxaro: | hmm 1 sec | [17:36] |
| Gaxaro: | need to use caculator lol | [17:36] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, you can always start the auction at a higher price too | [17:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | Gaxaro you need 60 coins of the yellow kind | [17:36] |
| Gaxaro: | oh okay | [17:37] |
| danielpbarron: | yes that's what i mean in another way | [17:37] |
| Gaxaro: | how do i exchange to bronze one to yellow? | [17:37] |
| diana_coman: | Gaxaro, you can use the bank for that for a fee | [17:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | selling 9936 cft q 157, starting 3.5mn heard diana_coman , eta 19:30 art << pinging jurov mod6 an' hanbot :D | [17:38] |
| Gaxaro: | ohh okay | [17:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | were there any other miners capable to eat a stack of cft ? | [17:38] |
| Gaxaro: | where is the bank at | [17:38] |
| diana_coman: | right-click on one of the npc | [17:38] |
| diana_coman: | and select, then type /bank personal | [17:38] |
| Gaxaro: | okay | [17:38] |
| Gaxaro: | Hmm | [17:40] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, it's a bit tricky | [17:40] |
| diana_coman: | first deposit the coin you want to exchange | [17:40] |
| diana_coman: | then click on the little tiny shiny nob at the bottom next to the coins you want to get | [17:40] |
| diana_coman: | and then write in there how many you want and click exchange | [17:40] |
| danielpbarron: | never ever exchanges coinz | [17:41] |
| Gaxaro: | oh okay | [17:41] |
| danielpbarron: | i have an enormous stockpile of the first two denominations | [17:41] |
| Gaxaro: | Trying to figure this out haha | [17:42] |
| danielpbarron: | when you train, if you don't have any lower coins you get change made with the server for free | [17:43] |
| danielpbarron: | plus the bezzle bag always gives only the lowest coin | [17:43] |
| diana_coman: | danielpbarron, he doesn't have the bezzle bag | [17:43] |
| Gaxaro: | Cant seem to do it weird.. | [17:43] |
| diana_coman: | Gaxaro, you prolly forgot the tiny nob | [17:43] |
| Gaxaro: | Yup i dont have one lol | [17:43] |
| danielpbarron: | i'm speaking as to how ~I~ have so many little coins | [17:44] |
| diana_coman: | as it doesn't look like a button | [17:44] |
| danielpbarron: | the golden goose also only gives the lowest coin | [17:44] |
| danielpbarron: | so that's a minimum of 11337 coppers i get a day | [17:44] |
| Gaxaro: | tiny nob? | [17:44] |
| diana_coman: | at the bottom row in the bank window | [17:44] |
| diana_coman: | next to each denomination there is a little circle | [17:44] |
| diana_coman: | you need to click on the one for the denomination you want to exchange TO | [17:45] |
| diana_coman: | it will lit up | [17:45] |
| diana_coman: | more like a dot than a circle, lol | [17:45] |
| Gaxaro: | looks like this https://gyazo.com/020c7b007606607f645af09e8c85fb60 | [17:45] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Gyazo - 020c7b007606607f645af09e8c85fb60.png (at gyazo.com) | [17:45] |
| diana_coman: | aha, exactly that | [17:46] |
| diana_coman: | next to the coins at the bottom row | [17:46] |
| diana_coman: | do you see the little yellow dots? | [17:46] |
| Gaxaro: | says my target must be a banker | [17:46] |
| diana_coman: | oh, you lost target meanwhile, jeez | [17:47] |
| diana_coman: | right click again on the npc and /bank personal | [17:47] |
| Gaxaro: | There we go! | [17:48] |
| Gaxaro: | Btw is it possible to macro the /explore commands so you just press a key as you walk around? | [17:49] |
| diana_coman: | you don't need a macro for that | [17:50] |
| diana_coman: | you can do it from the game really, lol | [17:50] |
| Gaxaro: | Hmm okay lol, how? | [17:50] |
| Gaxaro: | Is it already a button for it? | [17:50] |
| diana_coman: | go through the options (the wheel icon in the bar at the top) | [17:50] |
| diana_coman: | and you can set keys for anything pretty much | [17:50] |
| diana_coman: | has a key for explore | [17:50] |
| diana_coman: | but tbh I don't remember in detail the exact steps - read around there | [17:51] |
| diana_coman: | oh yeah, it's there | [17:51] |
| diana_coman: | controls/keys | [17:51] |
| diana_coman: | and the last set in there, shortcuts | [17:52] |
| Gaxaro: | Hmm it says i have no opponent to yield too lol | [17:52] |
| diana_coman: | Gaxaro, there are some shops in eulora, you can find the links on the wiki | [17:53] |
| diana_coman: | so you prolly set it to the same key as for yield, lol | [17:53] |
| diana_coman: | did you look through there what other keys are set? | [17:53] |
| diana_coman: | Gaxaro, atm I sell cruddy hoes for 25k as per http://www.dianacoman.com/eulora/foxystore/ | [17:54] |
| Gaxaro: | I use those for when i look for shiny rock? | [17:54] |
| diana_coman: | you can use any tool | [17:55] |
| diana_coman: | there are some ideas floating around that some tools are better for some types of resources | [17:55] |
| Gaxaro: | hmm okay | [17:55] |
| diana_coman: | dunno what to say whether hoe or pickaxe is better for shiny rock precisely | [17:55] |
| Gaxaro: | trying to set this /explore on keys atm first | [17:56] |
| diana_coman: | or adze for that matter (third type of basic tool) | [17:56] |
| Gaxaro: | cant seem to do it lol | [17:56] |
| Gaxaro: | https://gyazo.com/98957a357f53e384202e157185c63b45 | [17:56] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Gyazo - 98957a357f53e384202e157185c63b45.png (at gyazo.com) | [17:56] |
| diana_coman: | oh lol, so no | [17:56] |
| diana_coman: | go through the list in there until you find explore | [17:56] |
| diana_coman: | or uhm, wait | [17:57] |
| diana_coman: | I added it, lol | [17:57] |
| diana_coman: | so somehow I added explore there with the shortcut ...well, g for me | [17:57] |
| diana_coman: | you seem to have added a shortcut, but without a corresponding command | [17:57] |
| Gaxaro: | yeah that's what i meant lol | [17:58] |
| Gaxaro: | im not sure how to do that | [17:59] |
| Gaxaro: | That's what i am trying to figure out | [17:59] |
| Gaxaro: | Weird nothing is happening lol | [18:00] |
| diana_coman: | well, if no command set then... | [18:01] |
| Gaxaro: | How i set a command? | [18:01] |
| diana_coman: | if you are still stuck when I finish this craft I'll have a look | [18:01] |
| Gaxaro: | How do i set a command* | [18:01] |
| Gaxaro: | diana what is your pos? | [18:02] |
| diana_coman: | I'm the only girl there in the village, lol | [18:02] |
| diana_coman: | is Foxy in game | [18:02] |
| Gaxaro: | oh okay | [18:02] |
| diana_coman: | oh, lol, easy: click on Set and then in the window | [18:03] |
| diana_coman: | click on the "" and start typing the command | [18:03] |
| Gaxaro: | the one which comes up when you click next? | [18:04] |
| Gaxaro: | i mean set lol | [18:04] |
| Gaxaro: | Hmm i am clicking on it thought when i write nothing is happening | [18:05] |
| Gaxaro: | Strange that it aint working for me lol | [18:06] |
| diana_coman: | hm, no, it seems to be something else, I can't remember, lol (I set this in the very beginning) | [18:07] |
| Gaxaro: | oh okay | [18:07] |
| Gaxaro: | lets figure it out what it is lol | [18:09] |
| Gaxaro: | if you do not mind of course | [18:14] |
| diana_coman: | well, I see the same as you there, lol | [18:16] |
| Gaxaro: | Hmm okay, so it wont work? | [18:17] |
| diana_coman: | can't seem to remember exactly how it worked | [18:21] |
| diana_coman: | supposedly there should be a "enter the commands" box | [18:22] |
| diana_coman: | but what can I say: I found it ages ago; dig around there and find it | [18:22] |
| Gaxaro: | hmm okay | [18:22] |
| Gaxaro: | Huh i have something new on me | [18:31] |
| diana_coman: | ahhhh | [18:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | disease ? | [18:31] |
| diana_coman: | Gaxaro, I remembered | [18:32] |
| diana_coman: | it's a different window all together | [18:32] |
| diana_coman: | type /show shortcut | [18:32] |
| diana_coman: | and what do you have on you? lol | [18:32] |
| Gaxaro: | Small shiny rock ennumeration | [18:32] |
| Gaxaro: | i have on my char window | [18:32] |
| diana_coman: | that is the scroll (blueprint or whatever) to build a claim | [18:32] |
| diana_coman: | but uhm, didn't the bot build it? | [18:33] |
| diana_coman: | maybe you are out of threads? | [18:33] |
| diana_coman: | got the window I am talking about? | [18:33] |
| Gaxaro: | ohh i only have 3 thread left | [18:33] |
| diana_coman: | yeah, so stop | [18:33] |
| diana_coman: | as otherwise you'll wear down your tool and have nothing to show for it, lol | [18:33] |
| diana_coman: | maybe even lock the last small claim | [18:34] |
| diana_coman: | get back to town and get yourself some thread | [18:34] |
| diana_coman: | and yes, re your shortcut trouble: open that window, scroll in there at the bottom of it and right click on an empty square | [18:34] |
| diana_coman: | you'll get to the famous edit shortcut box | [18:34] |
| Gaxaro: | oh | [18:35] |
| diana_coman: | hadn't realised she was the only one to have figured this one out | [18:35] |
| Gaxaro: | Diana look at this | [18:40] |
| Gaxaro: | https://gyazo.com/916422677ec6bb9d8ab5ad088f169123 | [18:40] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Gyazo - 916422677ec6bb9d8ab5ad088f169123.gif (at gyazo.com) | [18:40] |
| Gaxaro: | https://gyazo.com/a4b09bcc905ae661551d39fcf5846f57 | [18:40] |
| lobbesbot: | Title: Gyazo - a4b09bcc905ae661551d39fcf5846f57.gif (at gyazo.com) | [18:40] |
| Gaxaro: | yeaah.. still confused haha | [18:41] |
| diana_coman: | uhm, you are not doing what I said | [18:41] |
| diana_coman: | <diana_coman> type /show shortcut | [18:41] |
| diana_coman: | Gaxaro, ^ | [18:42] |
| Gaxaro: | okay i did that | [18:42] |
| diana_coman: | did you get a different window? | [18:42] |
| Gaxaro: | sweet there we go | [18:43] |
| Gaxaro: | got it working | [18:43] |
| diana_coman: | aha | [18:43] |
| diana_coman: | get used to digging deep and keeping at it as this is what the game is all about really | [18:44] |
| Gaxaro: | Now i need to buy thread lol | [18:44] |
| Gaxaro: | Okay who has thread for sale lol | [18:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | selling 9936 cft q 157, starting 3.5mn heard diana_coman , eta 19:30 art << | [18:48] |
| Gaxaro: | I can make my own thread i assume? | [18:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | out of grass, if you have blueprints and a table, yes. | [18:49] |
| diana_coman: | Gaxaro, you can, but note that you'll likely get less output | [18:50] |
| diana_coman: | I can sell you some of mine though | [18:50] |
| Gaxaro: | i do not have blueprint lol | [18:50] |
| Gaxaro: | Okay Diana i will buy from you | [18:51] |
| diana_coman: | Gaxaro, it's quality 120, which means price is 180*1.2*1.25=270 coppers per thread | [18:52] |
| diana_coman: | how much do you want? | [18:52] |
| Gaxaro: | Well i assume i need a lot of thread? | [18:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | if you're going to mine, yeah | [18:53] |
| diana_coman: | 7 per claim, so make your calculations Gaxaro | [18:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, 1 to 7 technically. | [18:54] |
| Gaxaro: | Hmm how many can i get for 40k? lol | [18:55] |
| diana_coman: | Gaxaro, basic maths... | [18:55] |
| Gaxaro: | Sorry im terrible at math haha.. never been good at it xD | [18:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | o.O | [18:55] |
| diana_coman: | well, now is the time to learn | [18:55] |
| diana_coman: | 40k/270 | [18:55] |
| diana_coman: | calculator says 148 | [18:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | 1500ish ? hm ? hm ? | [18:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | aww! | [18:56] |
| Gaxaro: | Hmm.. | [18:58] |
| diana_coman: | actually I can sell you some lower q as that should give you more thread if you prefer that | [18:59] |
| diana_coman: | lower q = 109 | [18:59] |
| Gaxaro: | Sure | [18:59] |
| Gaxaro: | What does higher quality thread help with? | [18:59] |
| diana_coman: | 40000÷(1.09*180*1.25) | [18:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | believe it or not that's not actually known. | [18:59] |
| Gaxaro: | oh | [18:59] |
| diana_coman: | the idea is that the more value you put in the claim, the more you get out of it | [19:00] |
| Gaxaro: | oh | [19:00] |
| diana_coman: | but well, like most in eulora, you need to figure that for yourself - how true it is or whether it really is or in what conditions etc | [19:00] |
| diana_coman: | so you'd get 163 threads at 109q vs the 148 at 120q | [19:01] |
| Gaxaro: | Okay. | [19:01] |
| diana_coman: | 1 min | [19:02] |
| Gaxaro: | okay! | [19:03] |
| diana_coman: | click on accept Gaxaro | [19:04] |
| diana_coman: | have fun | [19:04] |
| Gaxaro: | ty | [19:04] |
| Birdman: | danielpbarron have more ords you need found? | [19:10] |
| Gaxaro: | So you're pretty good when it comes to programming? | [19:10] |
| Birdman: | almost done with the others | [19:10] |
| Gaxaro: | Now if i ever wanted to withdraw the satoshi i made then how would i go by that? | [19:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | Gaxaro talk to jurov | [19:11] |
| Gaxaro: | oh | [19:14] |
| danielpbarron: | Gaxaro> Okay who has thread for sale lol << http://danielpbarron.com/eulora/shop.txt | [19:14] |
| diana_coman: | Gaxaro, do the maths and figure out how much more you'd pay on the threads from daniel's shop vs those I sold you earlier | [19:15] |
| diana_coman: | not doing the maths will cost you money, as simple as that | [19:16] |
| Birdman: | for noob mining you want to dish out the cash to get the highest q threads possible | [19:16] |
| Birdman: | the output increase outweighs any reasonable extra cost on them | [19:16] |
| Birdman: | danielpbarron 2 misses in a row on ss fyi | [19:17] |
| Birdman: | do i continue? | [19:17] |
| danielpbarron: | i guess | [19:18] |
| Gaxaro: | I'm just gonna let this bot go 20 steps 1000 times lol | [19:20] |
| Gaxaro: | and see how it goes with shiny rock once i come back | [19:20] |
| Birdman: | so, after using the bot to do a single cs of ss, i stopped it realising the spot was really small and was gonna do it manually. 3 misses later it turns out its not giving me exp for using the sticks and have missed every stick since | [19:25] |
| Birdman: | mircea_popescu ^ | [19:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | just decay no xp ? | [19:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | sounds iffy. shall be looked into it. | [19:26] |
| Birdman: | yeah, thanks | [19:26] |
| danielpbarron: | did you tell the bot to stop? | [19:28] |
| danielpbarron: | and the bot should work even on snakeskin just set it to 2 or 3 in a line | [19:28] |
| danielpbarron: | but make sure you time it right | [19:29] |
| danielpbarron: | and if you stop the bot you have to wait for whatever time you told it anyway or else it will interrupt the next thing you try to do | [19:29] |
| danielpbarron: | and if you don't actually stop the bot, of course it will interrupt everything you do from then on | [19:29] |
| Birdman: | i stopped it and used the default time which is what 15 min? | [19:30] |
| Birdman: | but the explores didnt say interupted, just not successfull and no exp | [19:30] |
| danielpbarron: | don't use default ever. | [19:31] |
| danielpbarron: | i don't trust that thing at all | [19:31] |
| danielpbarron: | there is no default. everyone has different times | [19:31] |
| danielpbarron: | it takes me longer with a pickaxe than an adze even | [19:32] |
| Birdman: | well the default wait time i thought was 15 min no matter what you're doing | [19:32] |
| danielpbarron: | your phone probably has a timer | [19:32] |
| danielpbarron: | use that while doing one manually | [19:32] |
| Birdman: | take the ones i have so far | [19:33] |
| danielpbarron: | trade me | [19:35] |
| danielpbarron: | don't make me stop my craft bot and then leave | [19:36] |
| Gaxaro: | So it's actually fine to just do a line with 20 steps that goes foward and back every 20 step? | [19:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | define "fine" | [19:44] |
| danielpbarron: | well if you tell it 20 and 20 it will never go back | [19:45] |
| danielpbarron: | the first number is how many total attempts, the second number is how many attempts until it reverses direction | [19:46] |
| danielpbarron: | and you probably don't want both the same number, although I personally use 10k and 10k sometimes in combination with an xmacro that periodically changes direction and quickly follows with a /pilot to some point i'm trying to target | [19:46] |
| Gaxaro: | Well i did /bot explore 1000 line 20 1 7 | [19:47] |
| Birdman: | ./bot [explore] [attempts] line [steps] [keys in or out of claims] [#of threads per small] [?] [Max delay for lag] | [19:48] |
| danielpbarron: | yeah i wouldn't stop at 1 7 | [19:48] |
| danielpbarron: | i'd specify how long it takes you to finish an /explore with whatever tool you're using | [19:48] |
| Birdman: | idk what the one after the thread is | [19:49] |
| Gaxaro: | I'm not using a tool because im a noob still remember lol | [19:49] |
| danielpbarron: | and also the last number for the timeout for when you get up against a steep hill and it doesn't walk far enough to hit a new spot | [19:49] |
| Birdman: | you should use a tool, barehanded sucks at low level | [19:49] |
| Birdman: | might get some hits on grass though | [19:49] |
| danielpbarron: | actually noobs should use a tool and pros not as critical | [19:49] |
| danielpbarron: | i get pretty decent hit rate without a tool on basics | [19:49] |
| Birdman: | but you should get lots of smalls with a tool | [19:49] |
| Gaxaro: | Birdman you mean that the higher level i have in gathering the better slight chance i have to find something? | [19:50] |
| Birdman: | yes, bare handed | [19:50] |
| Birdman: | my experience with tools is that as a noob i only got small claims at like 75\% hit rate | [19:51] |
| Gaxaro: | Hmm okay. | [19:51] |
| Birdman: | but now that i have a decent gathering i can barehanded on grass and hit decently | [19:51] |
| Gaxaro: | I have no copper left tho, i bought bunch of thread for 40k xD | [19:51] |
| Birdman: | also note there's not been another case of 100\% smalls before | [19:51] |
| Birdman: | ill give you tools if you give me 50\% of the output from all claims you find with them | [19:52] |
| Gaxaro: | Sure, i'm definitely up for that. | [19:53] |
| Birdman: | Cool, where you at | [19:53] |
| Gaxaro: | At the shiny rock place | [19:53] |
| Gaxaro: | the -56 location | [19:54] |
| Birdman: | type /pos for me and get the coords? | [19:54] |
| Gaxaro: | -55.22 42.61 -166.72 | [19:55] |
| Birdman: | also if you're trying to grind up a bank roll i suggest grass, as its the best to noob mine in my experience. I'm not sure what the market is like for it right now though | [19:55] |
| Birdman: | good luck! | [19:56] |
| Gaxaro: | Oh okay, i will do that later once i used all tools on shiny rock haha | [19:58] |
| Birdman: | lol, alright man | [19:59] |
| Birdman: | why sr though? | [19:59] |
| Gaxaro: | Because everyone said that's what i should for for copper as a noob lol | [20:00] |
| Birdman: | ive just never had good hit rates with sr but i guess it is needed. My adivice is grass but alot has changed recently, along with the mining of a remarkable grass claim so it might not be as valuable. But yeah if not grass i suggest rotten fruit | [20:01] |
| Gaxaro: | hmm i got clump of dry grass welp lol | [20:01] |
| Birdman: | yeah im not certain you were at the right sr place tbh | [20:02] |
| Birdman: | not the one ive been to at least | [20:02] |
| Birdman: | i doubt you're gonna want to be using 20 steps to mine it too, try 10 tops | [20:02] |
| danielpbarron: | you're more likely to get grass | [20:02] |
| danielpbarron: | people just want shiny rock but they both sell for similar markup | [20:02] |
| Birdman: | doesnt matter to the bot, just use 2 steps | [20:02] |
| Gaxaro: | trying 10 now | [20:04] |
| Gaxaro: | Yeah no hits on the shiny rock atm with the tools lol | [20:12] |
| Gaxaro: | What do you want me to try so i dont waste them all lol | [20:14] |
| Gaxaro: | oh nvm found shiny rock now lol | [20:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | Birdman> ill give you tools if you give me 50\% of the output from all claims you find with them << lol | [20:31] |
| hanbot: | mircea_popescu 3.75mn on that cft | [20:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | selling 9936 cft q 157, starting 3.75mn heard hanbot , eta 19:30 art | [20:32] |
| Gaxaro: | how come the bot explorer sometimes stops even tho it has attempts left to do? | [20:35] |
| hanbot: | Gaxaro you'll typically get a reason in the bot window (usual culprits: your tool is worn out, you're overweight cause you've gathered so much stuff) | [20:39] |
| hanbot: | if you've gotten no reason at all, maybe pester diana_coman | [20:39] |
| Gaxaro: | Birdman are you there? | [20:58] |
| Gaxaro: | Well im off to sleep | [21:12] |
| Gaxaro: | Birdman doesn't seem to be here | [21:13] |
| Gaxaro: | oh well tomorrow then! | [21:13] |
| Birdman: | Well ~I~ think its a good idea ;) | [23:23] |
| Birdman: | uhh in regards to <mircea_popescu>Birdman> ill give you tools if you give me 50\% of the output from all claims you find with them << lol | [23:24] |
| Birdman: | Plus tools are pretty rare now and i first hand know the benefits of noob mining | [23:27] |
| Birdman: | On an interesting note i get smalls more often than tinies while bare handing | [23:30] |
| Birdman: | which i can only tell because of the amount of missing cft compared to lbn | [23:30] |
| Birdman: | and only been tested on pss, but thats pretty hard so im sure it holds through to basics | [23:31] |
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