| diana_coman: | mp_en_viaje: do we want to be able to send to the client/create on the fly new widgets too? | [16:41] |
| diana_coman: | ie to which extent is the GUI also something that can be downloaded from the server ? | [16:41] |
| diana_coman: | ("widget" in ps/paws parlance means any GUI element on the screen really, from windows to buttons) | [16:42] |
| mp_en_viaje: | to the entire extent. what else, have a pre-existing gui bundled with the client ? | [16:45] |
| diana_coman: | mp_en_viaje: as what windows exist, it could be, no? it's one thing "use that icon or this icon for close buttons" and another thing "here, create a new window like this and that" | [16:46] |
| diana_coman: | it's possible in principle both ways, sure; just a whole lot more to rip out of the paws nightmare + write new because it doesn't exist (current widgets are defined via xml and assume all sorts of hard-coded stuff etc). | [16:47] |
| mp_en_viaje: | this is becoming soup. the server's not actually telling the client how to display shit, is it ? | [16:47] |
| diana_coman: | that is why I asked: to what extent is "GUI" the part that is client-only concern ? | [16:47] |
| diana_coman: | GUI as such does include "how to display shit", hence the "soup". | [16:50] |
| mp_en_viaje: | the question is very confusiong, because one possible definition of "gui" is "specifically those items of client only concern", if that's the contemplated meaning then what's the point of the question ; if that isn't the contemplated meaning then what is ? | [16:50] |
| diana_coman: | mk; let me rephrase the question then: what is the definition of GUI that we are using when we say "client can download gui from server to the entire extent"? | [16:51] |
| mp_en_viaje: | the fact that value x is visually represented by x.jpg is dictated by the server, and x.jpg is provided to client by server on request. | [16:52] |
| mp_en_viaje: | the fact that value x and its visual anchor x.jpg is displayed at pixel 666,777 on client screen is decided by client, with no server input. | [16:52] |
| mp_en_viaje: | WHETHER it is displayed (at all, in a certain context, under or over other layers) also decided bu client, with no server input. | [16:53] |
| diana_coman: | mhm; so it would be "visual representation, not structure/context of representation" | [16:57] |
| diana_coman: | I'll hold on to that then, thanks. | [16:57] |
| mp_en_viaje: | right | [17:05] |
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