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July 31, 2017

#eulora Logs for 31 Jul 2017

Filed under: #eulora_irc,Logs — Diana Coman @ 12:00 am
mod6: < diana_coman> did a flotsam run with a guy: he got 2.8k flotsam q185 and…10k flotsam q3 << that 185 is outstanding. [17:00]
mod6: im getting stuff inbetween 1q & 9q now. [17:00]
f1maze: Got my shovel [20:34]
mircea_popescu: your what ? [20:38]
f1maze: Oh sorry, can I have an account? [20:38]
f1maze: Am I doing this right? [20:38]
f1maze: >< [20:38]
mircea_popescu: ah [20:38]
mircea_popescu: one sec [20:39]
f1maze: what is this deepbookip? [20:40]
mircea_popescu: no idea [20:40]
mircea_popescu: f1maze http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/J7FfR/?raw=true [20:41]
f1maze: thanks [20:50]

July 30, 2017

#eulora Logs for 30 Jul 2017

Filed under: #eulora_irc,Logs — Diana Coman @ 12:00 am
diana_coman: hmm, this up-down thing quality-quantity is…interesting [18:18]
diana_coman: did a flotsam run with a guy: he got 2.8k flotsam q185 and…10k flotsam q3 [18:18]
diana_coman: if one were to mix this, it'll end up about 42q, which is arguably ok for flotsam; but then this means that there is no real point in getting q1 separate anyway, at least not as long as one can't tell in advance what sort of bundle a claim needs [18:20]
diana_coman: (since some claims seem to "explode" into this large quantity/low quality so it's pretty much a pop although unclear if a claim-pop hence potentially known upfront or a build-pop hence unknown anyway) [18:21]
diana_coman: mini-pop* [18:21]
diana_coman: ftr: "flotsam run" there means 10 hour run with ich [18:22]
lobbesbot: A#128 O=300k HB=400k E=07-30 23:17:20 (0h39) >>> 27 Questionable Flagon q167 [18:37]
lobbesbot: — end of auction list, 400k total bids — [18:37]
mircea_popescu: hm [18:44]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 128 has ENDED: 27 Questionable Flagon q167 SOLD to hanbot for 400k coppers. Attn: mircea_popescu [19:17]
mircea_popescu: hanbot pickup at your leisure. [20:23]

July 28, 2017

#eulora Logs for 28 Jul 2017

Filed under: #eulora_irc,Logs — Diana Coman @ 12:00 am
diana_coman: o.O I looted 807 pcos q97 [14:01]
lobbesbot: A#128 O=300k HB=400k E=07-30 23:17:20 (52h40) >>> 27 Questionable Flagon q167 [14:36]
lobbesbot: — end of auction list, 400k total bids — [14:36]
mircea_popescu: that's nb is it diana_coman ? [14:41]
diana_coman: not bad, no; granted it was one of those uber-overcrafted stuff but yeah, those underlings of Foxy's makes up for all her lack of luck [14:42]
diana_coman: ftr the "noob" in question is ~210 tinkering, lol [14:42]
diana_coman: crafting a foxy-bundle some 1100q [14:43]
diana_coman: but honestly I think overall Fox would have gotten *less* out of the run [14:43]
mircea_popescu: possibru [15:02]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman was it a pop even ? [15:03]
mircea_popescu: o look, morys has got 6.000 ecu! [15:03]
lobbesbot: A#128 O=300k HB=400k E=07-30 23:17:20 (51h40) >>> 27 Questionable Flagon q167 [15:36]
lobbesbot: — end of auction list, 400k total bids — [15:36]
diana_coman: aha, a bit more than 6mn [17:13]
lobbesbot: A#128 O=300k HB=400k E=07-30 23:17:20 (49h40) >>> 27 Questionable Flagon q167 [17:36]
lobbesbot: — end of auction list, 400k total bids — [17:36]
Birdman: have you guys heard of this impending hard fork? [21:37]
mircea_popescu: lol k [21:49]
shinohai: I prefer hard sporks myself [21:50]
Birdman: idk lol derpy question just havent seen anything about it and this little btc poker client has people all bugging out about it [22:01]
mircea_popescu: if you've not seen is because you've not been reading the loigs. [22:02]
lobbesbot: A#128 O=300k HB=400k E=07-30 23:17:20 (44h40) >>> 27 Questionable Flagon q167 [22:37]
lobbesbot: — end of auction list, 400k total bids — [22:37]

July 26, 2017

#eulora Logs for 26 Jul 2017

Filed under: #eulora_irc,Logs — Diana Coman @ 12:00 am
diana_coman: server coming down in ~30 min for usual maintenance & update [15:31]
lobbesbot: A#128 O=300k HB=400k E=07-30 23:17:20 (99h40) >>> 27 Questionable Flagon q167 [15:36]
lobbesbot: — end of auction list, 400k total bids — [15:36]
diana_coman: server is back on, enjoy! [16:06]
diana_coman: there is no planned downtime next week [16:06]
mod6: sweet, thanks for the update [16:21]
diana_coman: hi mod6; need any more cft/tools in eulora? [16:26]
mod6: hey! [16:36]
lobbesbot: A#128 O=300k HB=400k E=07-30 23:17:20 (98h40) >>> 27 Questionable Flagon q167 [16:36]
lobbesbot: — end of auction list, 400k total bids — [16:36]
mod6: actually, yeah im gonna need some hoes or picks at somepoint [16:36]
mod6: and probably some coppers too, but might be a couple of days before I get to it. [16:37]
mod6: i'll holler though [16:37]
lobbesbot: A#128 O=300k HB=400k E=07-30 23:17:20 (97h40) >>> 27 Questionable Flagon q167 [17:36]
lobbesbot: — end of auction list, 400k total bids — [17:36]
mircea_popescu: well then, ima try a bouq click see what happens [18:40]
lobbesbot: A#128 O=300k HB=400k E=07-30 23:17:20 (95h40) >>> 27 Questionable Flagon q167 [19:36]
lobbesbot: — end of auction list, 400k total bids — [19:36]

July 25, 2017

#eulora Logs for 25 Jul 2017

Filed under: #eulora_irc,Logs — Diana Coman @ 12:00 am
Birdman: mircea_popescu is your blog website down or somethin? [03:18]
mircea_popescu: Birdman nope ? [03:22]
Birdman: huh, nevermind i guess [03:24]
Birdman: was giving me an error page when i typed it with https [03:25]
lobbesbot: A#128 O=300k HB=400k E=07-30 23:17:20 (135h41) >>> 27 Questionable Flagon q167 [03:36]
lobbesbot: — end of auction list, 400k total bids — [03:36]

July 24, 2017

#eulora Logs for 24 Jul 2017

Filed under: #eulora_irc,Logs — Diana Coman @ 12:00 am
hanbot: !Qbid 128 400k [00:09]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 128: 27 Questionable Flagon q167 Heard: 400k from hanbot overbidding danielpbarron Ending: 2017-07-30 23:17:20 UTC (163 hours 7 mins) [00:09]
lobbesbot: A#128 O=300k HB=400k E=07-30 23:17:20 (162h41) >>> 27 Questionable Flagon q167 [00:35]
lobbesbot: — end of auction list, 400k total bids — [00:35]
mircea_popescu: evidently, i pinged the wrong people :D [01:34]
lobbesbot: A#128 O=300k HB=400k E=07-30 23:17:20 (161h41) >>> 27 Questionable Flagon q167 [01:36]
lobbesbot: — end of auction list, 400k total bids — [01:36]
diana_coman: well, I don't have any woa bps although I even have some flagon bps so not really sure about it [02:11]
mircea_popescu: mostly doing a price check. [02:13]
mircea_popescu: btw i'm mostly done with my woa run, so ima make a pile of IO next. [02:14]
mircea_popescu: after which im thinking a bunch of shaped slags and basic tools. [02:15]
diana_coman: Fox finished all the woa anyway, went out to dig with cs at least [02:15]
mircea_popescu: should i sell more ? [02:15]
diana_coman: there is always more space for cs [02:16]
mircea_popescu: i meant moar woa. not sure i'm set up to make cs atm [02:16]
diana_coman: ah; I can eat more woa too, sure [02:17]
mircea_popescu: lessee ehre [02:17]
diana_coman: I guess on Wednesday after update I'll start some intermediate-crafter on a cons, not much choice [02:18]
diana_coman: otherwise I'll surely run out of cft bps at some point [02:18]
mircea_popescu: 797 woa q 237 ? or is that too much in one go [02:18]
diana_coman: o.O [02:32]
diana_coman: I guess it'll keep me busy for some time though; resulting lvl2 numina will be needed at some point anyway [02:33]
diana_coman: so yeah, I'll take it [02:33]
mircea_popescu: alright then. [02:33]
diana_coman: ofc fox is …digging with a cs, ugh [02:34]
mircea_popescu: !~calc 797 * 2.37 * 18.7 /208 / 2.35 [02:34]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 797 * 2.37 * 18.7 /208 / 2.35 = 72.26318126022913 [02:34]
mircea_popescu: you got 70mn in jingle ? [02:34]
diana_coman: yes, lol [02:34]
mircea_popescu: aite, trade then! [02:34]
diana_coman: fox …is …out…diggin' [02:35]
mircea_popescu: ah ah right. [02:35]
mircea_popescu: well, ping me when convenient. [02:35]
diana_coman: will have to ping later when this cs finishes [02:35]
diana_coman: will do [02:35]
mircea_popescu: you got leather btw ? sr ? f ? [02:35]
diana_coman: yeah; although sr+f low q [02:35]
mircea_popescu: i don't so much care. sb ? [02:35]
lobbesbot: A#128 O=300k HB=400k E=07-30 23:17:20 (160h41) >>> 27 Questionable Flagon q167 [02:36]
lobbesbot: — end of auction list, 400k total bids — [02:36]
diana_coman: will look [02:36]
mircea_popescu: kk [02:36]
lobbesbot: A#128 O=300k HB=400k E=07-30 23:17:20 (159h41) >>> 27 Questionable Flagon q167 [03:36]
lobbesbot: — end of auction list, 400k total bids — [03:36]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, now? [04:16]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman ya [04:29]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, f, sb, sr q1 plenty but on donkey so will need separate trade [04:30]
mircea_popescu: tyvm [04:30]
diana_coman: thanks! [04:30]
mircea_popescu: np ill be around ping m,e [04:30]
diana_coman: how much f,sb etc you want? [04:30]
diana_coman: donkey is here, needs to drop tables and log out,lol [04:30]
mircea_popescu: i dunno, 100k ? [04:30]
diana_coman: might even have at least f, lol [04:31]
diana_coman: 10 stacks, should be [04:31]
diana_coman: I was selling basics at 195\% though; that fine? [04:32]
mircea_popescu: yeah. [04:32]
mircea_popescu: hm [04:33]
diana_coman: lol; no? [04:33]
mircea_popescu: only q 1s though ? [04:33]
mircea_popescu: yes yes, just, i also want some higher q stuff. [04:33]
diana_coman: this is all q1 yeah [04:33]
diana_coman: hm [04:33]
mircea_popescu: well, can you pump it up ? [04:33]
diana_coman: I have some sb some q41 I think, but not such huge quantities [04:33]
diana_coman: not those quantities, no [04:33]
mircea_popescu: ideally i'd want say q 10 -15 [04:33]
diana_coman: and trouble is that…no cft bps [04:33]
diana_coman: basically I can get whatever quantities, but only once there is some clear way of replenishing cft bps [04:34]
mircea_popescu: hm. [04:34]
diana_coman: eats a lot of cft [04:34]
diana_coman: and the ords take all sort of rare shit [04:34]
mircea_popescu: which ords only took shaped slag ? [04:35]
diana_coman: heh, that's exactly what I was looking at, but they tend to be not-basics for some reason [04:35]
mircea_popescu: "some reason" ya [04:35]
lobbesbot: A#128 O=300k HB=400k E=07-30 23:17:20 (158h41) >>> 27 Questionable Flagon q167 [04:36]
lobbesbot: — end of auction list, 400k total bids — [04:36]
diana_coman: heh [04:36]
diana_coman: dcs, pn, pss, rr, sb [04:36]
diana_coman: there is sb I suppose [04:36]
mircea_popescu: tell you what, sb i want higher q anyway to make decent cs. [04:37]
diana_coman: still takes some eps but at least not st [04:37]
mircea_popescu: so dig up your sb ords ? [04:37]
diana_coman: mk; do you have some sharp slag? [04:37]
mircea_popescu: i don't, but i'll put it top of the list [04:37]
mircea_popescu: will soon start making ltf then io then ss [04:37]
mircea_popescu: how much total you're looking at ? [04:38]
diana_coman: well, it takes 25 sharp slag per ord so I guess at least a few hundreds [04:39]
diana_coman: those lucky bastards can get ords quite easily anyway [04:39]
mircea_popescu: i was planning on making a stack. [04:39]
diana_coman: can't hurt [04:39]
mircea_popescu: will take a few weeks though. [04:39]
diana_coman: lol [04:39]
diana_coman: hopefully it won't take also a large markup [04:40]
diana_coman: because then it kind of falls through or pushes the price up [04:40]
mircea_popescu: i'll have to figure it out, lengthy craft line hard to guess [04:40]
diana_coman: that's the thing: q1 is fine and plenty [04:40]
diana_coman: anything higher than that can easily get iffy [04:41]
mircea_popescu: yeh but can't quite use by itself [04:41]
diana_coman: what can I say [04:41]
diana_coman: tbh I have those stores of q1 mainly for future mixing, they were not meant to sell/use as such [04:42]
mircea_popescu: yeah. [04:42]
mircea_popescu: kinda my thinking also, i could buy, but couldn't really use. [04:42]
diana_coman: I'm not even sure they are worth selling as such: I mean there is very little money in it as such and then there's a lot of carrying them around [04:43]
diana_coman: so best used as input [04:43]
mircea_popescu: yeah [04:43]
mircea_popescu: and how about leather ? [04:44]
diana_coman: that is..painful; gotta take it out of storage, lol! [04:44]
mircea_popescu: also q 1? [04:44]
diana_coman: some 3k q16 [04:45]
diana_coman: loads q1, yes [04:45]
diana_coman: since there was no interest otherwise I started from bottom systematically filling first q1, lol [04:45]
diana_coman: the easy bit [04:45]
mircea_popescu: aha [04:45]
mircea_popescu: meh, leather is kinda like sb, i'd rather want 40-50 [04:46]
diana_coman: meanwhile I kind of figured out how to get all sorts of q, but while figuring out I also started depleting all sorts (aka cft bps, non-basics for ords, ord bundles etc) [04:46]
diana_coman: not yet depleted fully, but seeing the bottom of the sack as it were [04:47]
mircea_popescu: aha [04:47]
diana_coman: scary stuff :P [04:47]
mircea_popescu: well, shaped slags i'll be able to make a bunch, that might help. what other stuff is neededf for ords ? [04:47]
diana_coman: io [04:47]
mircea_popescu: also will make a lot. [04:47]
mircea_popescu: i have this all lined up, mats ready, just need to click [04:47]
diana_coman: the rest are really just rares, not much to do there [04:48]
diana_coman: is looking happily on the ton of dm [04:48]
diana_coman: if only I had similar quantities of all the rest,lol [04:48]
mircea_popescu: hehe [04:52]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, actually re sr+f -> won't it make more sense to just buy ibs for instance? [05:20]
diana_coman: iirc that was the thing: not much of a case for fox to sell basics as such; way more sense to sell 1st level crafted items [05:21]
mircea_popescu: i got plenty of ibs atm [05:25]
mircea_popescu: kinda what happened, made slag and ibs, ran out of stocks. [05:25]
diana_coman: hm [05:26]
mircea_popescu: 12 stacks ibs for io + 5 or so for flagons, burned as you can imagine a lotta f/sr [05:27]
mircea_popescu: coupla stacks of slag idem [05:27]
diana_coman: well, I sold you all that f and sr, lol [05:27]
diana_coman: so yeah, I can imagine [05:27]
mircea_popescu: pretty much yeah hehe [05:28]
mircea_popescu: anyay, not necessarily against buying ibs etc, in general. [05:28]
mircea_popescu: slag actually, if you want to craft. [05:28]
diana_coman: what seems potentially iffy is simply this cycle of selling basics and then buying highly processed stuff at a markup that is not clear is actually less than if fox made the whole chain; not fully clear yet [05:28]
mircea_popescu: i dun recall, wasn't it clear with cft ? [05:29]
diana_coman: with cft it was clear that fox is better off making it, yeah [05:29]
diana_coman: but cft is as simple as it gets [05:29]
diana_coman: not really same for io [05:29]
mircea_popescu: ah it was ? [05:29]
diana_coman: yes [05:30]
mircea_popescu: i thought it was teh other way around [05:30]
diana_coman: no; I was stupid and bought cft before doing the calc, yeah [05:30]
diana_coman: when I did them it turned out that…idiot [05:30]
mircea_popescu: o.O [05:30]
mircea_popescu: i somehow recall selling cft very cheaply. [05:30]
diana_coman: might seem cheap, lol; still… [05:30]
diana_coman: http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-05-26.log.html#t08:57:44 [05:31]
lobbesbot: Logged on 2017-05-26 08:57:44: <diana_coman> hmm, mircea_popescu have a look at this: did some calculations and it turns out (unless I got something wrong, ofc!) that foxy's sweet spot re tink cft would be using grass q8; with bps 194q, she turns 24 cdg into 7 cft q 50! which is apparently …better than buying the cft [05:31]
diana_coman: there [05:31]
mircea_popescu: http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-05-26.log.html#t09:00:00 what i found meanwhile [05:31]
lobbesbot: Logged on 2017-05-26 09:00:00: <diana_coman> it's totally unclear that the 17 additional q points of cft really are worth the markup [05:31]
diana_coman: same, no? [05:32]
diana_coman: aka mircea makes cft slightly better, but at a higher markup [05:32]
mircea_popescu: !~calc 1.7 / 9999 / .68 [05:32]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 1.7 / 9999 / .68 = 2.5002500250025E-4 [05:32]
mircea_popescu: !~calc 1.7 / 9999 / .68 / 60 [05:32]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 1.7 / 9999 / .68 / 60 = 4.167083375004167E-6 [05:32]
mircea_popescu: !~calc 1.7 / 9999 / .68 / 180 [05:33]
mircea_popescu: heh [05:33]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 1.7 / 9999 / .68 / 180 = 1.3890277916680558E-6 [05:33]
mircea_popescu: ok so i was selling cft at 139\% [05:33]
mircea_popescu: !~calc 24 * 60 * .08 * 1.95 [05:33]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 24 * 60 * .08 * 1.95 = 224.64 [05:33]
mircea_popescu: !~calc 7 * 180 * .5 * 1.39 [05:34]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 7 * 180 * .5 * 1.39 = 875.6999999999999 [05:34]
mircea_popescu: !~calc (875.7 – 224.64) / 1.94 / 18 [05:34]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: (875.7 – 224.64) / 1.94 / 18 = 18.64432989690722 [05:34]
mircea_popescu: so yeah, with bp up to 1864\% you're better off crafting than buying huh. [05:34]
diana_coman: yes [05:35]
lobbesbot: A#128 O=300k HB=400k E=07-30 23:17:20 (157h41) >>> 27 Questionable Flagon q167 [05:36]
lobbesbot: — end of auction list, 400k total bids — [05:36]
diana_coman: trouble is that I think this would logically be likely the case for all lvl1 crafts, no? [05:36]
mircea_popescu: !~calc 575.7 / 7 / 180 [05:36]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 575.7 / 7 / 180 = 0.4569047619047619 [05:36]
mircea_popescu: !~calc 575.7 / 7 / 180 / .5 [05:36]
diana_coman: which at same time would mean that selling basics would make sense only for …surplus basics or something [05:36]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 575.7 / 7 / 180 / .5 = 0.9138095238095238 [05:36]
diana_coman: or sort of "I'm running out of bps" [05:37]
mircea_popescu: so basically… unless cft actually sold for 91\%, you'd still be better off crafting. [05:37]
mircea_popescu: nuts. [05:37]
diana_coman: I think that's the skill basically [05:37]
diana_coman: too skilled to buy stuff [05:37]
mircea_popescu: or maybe we misjudge bp value [05:37]
diana_coman: because adding value while crafting [05:37]
diana_coman: maybe [05:37]
mircea_popescu: seems unlikely we misjudge anything else, like say marginal utilityu of higher q. [05:38]
diana_coman: well, looming lack of cft bps would support the idea that value of bps likely higher than we think [05:38]
diana_coman: there is that [05:38]
mircea_popescu: well, cft ain't never gonna sell for 90\%, that's fo sho. [05:39]
diana_coman: ahahahah, yes [05:39]
diana_coman: spirover still buys it at 100\%, so ..yeah [05:39]
mircea_popescu: so logically this calculation would rather indicate cft bps can't sell for less than 1300\% or so. [05:40]
mircea_popescu: !~calc (7 * 180 * .5 – 224.64) / 18 / 1.94 [05:40]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: (7 * 180 * .5 – 224.64) / 18 / 1.94 = 11.608247422680414 [05:40]
mircea_popescu: 1160 to be precise. [05:41]
diana_coman: onth I can't help but thinking there would be some sense to the implication that higher skilled crafter is better off prolly buying lvl1 ingredients and crafting higher levels rather than crafting from scratch but maybe more as a matter of limited time rather than a hard thing like this [05:41]
mircea_popescu: maybe. [05:41]
diana_coman: well, they aren't selling nao for anything, lel [05:41]
mircea_popescu: im going to click some grass now to see this wonder. [05:41]
diana_coman: quite expects things changed meanwhile [05:41]
diana_coman: meanwhile fox clicked a dcs ord with a 315k bv bundle so she's stuck for next hour at least [05:42]
mircea_popescu: heh. 24 cdg q 1 makes me 9 cft q 17. [05:46]
mircea_popescu: !~calc (180 Ã\u0097 9 Ã\u0097 .17 â\u0088\u0092 24 Ã\u0097 60 Ã\u0097 .01) / 2.02 / 18 [05:46]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [05:46]
mircea_popescu: !~calc (180 * 9 * .17 – 24 * 60 * .01) / 2.02 / 18 [05:46]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [05:46]
mircea_popescu: da fuck. [05:47]
mircea_popescu: !~calc (180 * 9 * .17 * 1.39 – 24 * 60 * .01 * 1.95) / 2.02 / 18 [05:47]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: (180 * 9 * .17 * 1.39 – 24 * 60 * .01 * 1.95) / 2.02 / 18 = 9.755940594059407 [05:47]
mircea_popescu: so basically, at 139\% i'm actually losing moneyz. [05:48]
diana_coman: lol! [05:49]
mircea_popescu: well, depends on what cft bp is, but if it's 1000\% then yes a little. [05:49]
diana_coman: it might be though that meanwhile your sweet spot changed [05:50]
diana_coman: did you re-calc that? [05:50]
mircea_popescu: nope. [05:50]
mircea_popescu: too involved and i've not different q's of grass. [05:50]
mircea_popescu: if you wanna supply me some high grass ima mix it into values. [05:51]
mircea_popescu: byt tomorrow — now im for bed. [05:51]
diana_coman: good night [05:51]
lobbesbot: A#128 O=300k HB=400k E=07-30 23:17:20 (156h41) >>> 27 Questionable Flagon q167 [06:36]
lobbesbot: — end of auction list, 400k total bids — [06:36]
lobbes: http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-07-24.log.html#t09:33:18 << looks like thats the cheapest it has ever gone at (recorded) auction too: http://lobbesblog.com/queryauctions/pricehistory/view.php?ItemSHC=cft&TimeLookback=&Quality=&QualityWidth=&SortBy=overbase_desc [13:40]
lobbesbot: Logged on 2017-07-24 09:33:18: <mircea_popescu> ok so i was selling cft at 139\% [13:40]
lobbes: By the way, is there interest in being able to record "off-auction" transactions to be included in the above price data? Something like !Qsold <item> <price> <quality> <quantity> <[optional] sold to>? [13:40]
mircea_popescu: probably not, because you don't know what's going on. [13:41]
mircea_popescu: if it's not open outcry it'll just end up people manipulating the price. [13:41]
mircea_popescu: lobbes do you want something like… market.minigame.bz for that link ? [13:45]
lobbes: Good point re: manipulation. Harder (sometimes impossible) to validate hearsay [14:16]
lobbes: Re: using market.minigame.bz, that sounds good to me. [14:17]
mircea_popescu: aite, i forget, what did it need ? delegate to ns, which ? [14:33]
lobbesbot: A#128 O=300k HB=400k E=07-30 23:17:20 (148h41) >>> 27 Questionable Flagon q167 [14:36]
lobbesbot: — end of auction list, 400k total bids — [14:36]
lobbes: Hm, this may be a bit trickier because the box is home both to that tool as well as my personal blog. I'll have to review my configs (and refresh myself on the basics) and get back to you. [15:24]
lobbesbot: A#128 O=300k HB=400k E=07-30 23:17:20 (147h41) >>> 27 Questionable Flagon q167 [15:36]
lobbesbot: — end of auction list, 400k total bids — [15:36]
mircea_popescu: no biggy. [15:47]
lobbesbot: A#128 O=300k HB=400k E=07-30 23:17:20 (146h41) >>> 27 Questionable Flagon q167 [16:36]
lobbesbot: — end of auction list, 400k total bids — [16:36]

July 23, 2017

#eulora Logs for 23 Jul 2017

Filed under: #eulora_irc,Logs — Diana Coman @ 12:00 am
mircea_popescu: hm. [00:25]
mircea_popescu: !~later tell elleross are you doing something weird ? [00:27]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded. [00:27]
mircea_popescu: !~calc 6624*27*1.67 [19:16]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 6624*27*1.67 = 298676.16 [19:16]
mircea_popescu: !QAuction .3mn 168 27 Questionable Flagon q167 [19:17]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 128 STARTED by mircea_popescu: 27 Questionable Flagon q167 Opening: .3mn coppers Ending: 2017-07-30 23:17:20 UTC (168 hours) [19:17]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman danielpbarron ^ [19:17]
lobbesbot: A#128 O=300k HB=No bids E=07-30 23:17:20 (167h41) >>> 27 Questionable Flagon q167 [19:35]
lobbesbot: — end of auction list, 0 total bids — [19:35]
Birdman: !Qbid [19:38]
lobbesbot: Birdman: (bid <auction id (INT)> <bid (coppers)>) — e.g. !Qbid 123 12mn [19:38]
Birdman: !Qbid 128 300k [19:38]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 128: 27 Questionable Flagon q167 Heard: 300k from Birdman Ending: 2017-07-30 23:17:20 UTC (167 hours 39 mins) [19:38]
elleross: power went out so lost internet lol any thoughts on my last question I decrypted the file put in the login but says no such user name [20:25]
mircea_popescu: elleross pretty weird. [20:28]
danielpbarron: !Qbid 128 315k [20:28]
lobbesbot: AUCTION # 128: 27 Questionable Flagon q167 Heard: 315k from danielpbarron overbidding Birdman Ending: 2017-07-30 23:17:20 UTC (166 hours 48 mins) [20:28]
lobbesbot: A#128 O=300k HB=315k E=07-30 23:17:20 (166h41) >>> 27 Questionable Flagon q167 [20:35]
lobbesbot: — end of auction list, 315k total bids — [20:35]
elleross: the file I got I saved it as asc and decrypted it that correct right [20:44]
lobbesbot: A#128 O=300k HB=315k E=07-30 23:17:20 (165h41) >>> 27 Questionable Flagon q167 [21:35]
lobbesbot: — end of auction list, 315k total bids — [21:35]
mircea_popescu: elleross sounds right yes. [21:39]
lobbesbot: A#128 O=300k HB=315k E=07-30 23:17:20 (164h41) >>> 27 Questionable Flagon q167 [22:35]
lobbesbot: — end of auction list, 315k total bids — [22:35]

July 22, 2017

#eulora Logs for 22 Jul 2017

Filed under: #eulora_irc,Logs — Diana Coman @ 12:00 am
mircea_popescu: mod6 hanbot either of you have sb ? [01:44]
hanbot: mebbe, i'll check. [01:53]
mod6: sb, ya, i got some. [01:54]
mod6: low q though [01:54]
mircea_popescu: any q really. how much ? [01:55]
mod6: lemme check quick. [01:55]
hanbot: mircea_popescu i've got 4617, should be about 140q once smooshed all together. [01:58]
mircea_popescu: that works nicely. how much ? [01:59]
hanbot: as per your shop price works. i'll start piling 'em up [02:00]
mod6: i've got 2059 @ 1q, 1278 @ 4q [02:00]
mircea_popescu: mod6 works! [02:08]
hanbot: mircea_popescu 4784×58×1.52×1.5 = 632636. i had some extra in my couch cushions apparently. [02:08]
mircea_popescu: cool deal. [02:08]
mircea_popescu: trade me hanbot [02:08]
mircea_popescu: ty [02:10]
hanbot: thanks [02:10]
mircea_popescu: hit me mod6 [02:10]
mircea_popescu: !~ticker –market all [02:10]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2744.99, vol: 15482.65900588 BTC-E BTCUSD last: 2595.0, vol: 5869.57543 Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2755.0, vol: 34352.66958727 BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2738.93403, vol: 11896.90690000 Kraken BTCUSD last: 2745.9, vol: 8467.46946233 Volume-weighted last average: 2737.09128836 [02:10]
mod6: ok [02:10]
mircea_popescu: !~calc 0.00632636 * 2737.09128836 [02:10]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 0.00632636 * 2737.09128836 = 17.31582484302917 [02:10]
mircea_popescu: couch cushions indeed lawl [02:11]
mircea_popescu: !~calc 58 * (2059 * .01 + 1278 * .04) [02:12]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 58 * (2059 * .01 + 1278 * .04) = 4159.18 [02:12]
mod6: just a sec. it only let me pull like 298 into my inv. [02:12]
mircea_popescu: mod6 ok, say when loaded up [02:12]
mircea_popescu: keep teh change my good man! [02:18]
mod6: *thumbs up* [02:18]
mod6: thanks Sir. [02:18]
mircea_popescu: pleasure doing biz with you fellas. [02:19]
mircea_popescu: in other news, mixing stacks is actually fun lol [02:21]
bluthw: hello how do I get my account I tryed registration in deedbot and useing my url I had got a number do I use that in account setup [19:46]
Birdman: Ask mircea_popescu for an account bluthw, he is the guy who gives accounts [19:49]
mircea_popescu: heya. [19:49]
bluthw: i just im mircea [19:50]
mircea_popescu: did you verify your registration ? [19:51]
bluthw: I put in / deedbot the my woturl and got a number back [19:52]
mircea_popescu: ugh where's that guide [19:52]
bluthw: query deedbot [19:53]
bluthw: !!register <wotpaste url from above> [19:53]
bluthw: i did all that [19:53]
mircea_popescu: and !!v then ? [19:53]
bluthw: huh i didnt get that what else do I do [19:54]
mircea_popescu: which guide are you following ? [19:54]
bluthw: http://www.eulorum.org/Account_Setup [19:55]
mircea_popescu: aha! [19:55]
mircea_popescu: alright, i don't see your key just yet, but talking to bot maintainer to see what this is all about. [19:55]
mircea_popescu: either hang around or come back in a few hours i figure. [19:56]
bluthw: did I do everything correct [19:56]
mircea_popescu: probably, yes. [19:56]
bluthw: the key is the long number right [19:57]
mircea_popescu: no, that's the fingerprint. [19:57]
bluthw: after puting in the woturl i get a fingerprint in deedbot [19:58]
mircea_popescu: aha. [19:58]
mircea_popescu: the key has two parts, a public part and a private part. what you put in is the public part. [19:58]
bluthw: ok this is what I did (6:39:01 PM) bluthw: !!register wotpaste url from above [20:00]
bluthw: (6:39:01 PM) deedbot: Provide a paste URL to the ascii-armored GPG public key or the full 40 character key fingerprint without spaces or dashes. [20:00]
bluthw: (6:39:48 PM) bluthw: !!register http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/Qf1xf/?raw=true [20:00]
bluthw: (6:39:52 PM) deedbot: 7338F12D6D59BFACF0D9F81CC3262D070A3BF734 [20:00]
mircea_popescu: jesus. [20:00]
bluthw: sorry just trying to figurre this out [20:01]
mircea_popescu: —–BEGIN PGP PRIVATE KEY BLOCK—– << that means you put in the wrong key. try the public key next time. [20:01]
bluthw: public key how do I find that [20:01]
mircea_popescu: how did you find the private ? [20:01]
bluthw: that was the public When pasting your public key into the input field, ensure you begin with the line —–BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK—– including the dashes, and end with the line —–END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK—– [20:03]
bluthw: its all in the guide [20:03]
mircea_popescu: but yours reads PRIVATE. [20:03]
bluthw: it say provied a public url i entered it in and got that long number [20:05]
bluthw: where did you see begin private thats not what im seeing [20:07]
mircea_popescu: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/Qf1xf/?raw=true < [20:08]
bluthw: i keep geting private from Kleopatra exe [20:15]
bluthw: how do I get public key [20:16]
mircea_popescu: bluthw must have some kind of "get public key" somewhere. [21:12]
bluthw: i got my public key now [21:12]
bluthw: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/YfynE/?raw=true [21:14]
bluthw: so what do I do now mircea can I get a account now [21:16]
mircea_popescu: well no, because you meanwhile exposed your private key, so that key's ruined. make a new one. [21:22]
Birdman: lol [21:27]
bluthw: crap so ok ill do that then you set me up with a account [21:30]
bluthw: ok done its created [21:36]
mircea_popescu: still doesn't see you. [21:41]
bluthw: what I did exactly what the guide said to do I dont get it [21:42]
mircea_popescu: hm. [21:47]
mircea_popescu: possibly your previous attempt fucked up this nick. try registering with a new nick with your new key. [21:48]
elleross: ok im under different nick I did the deedbot thing and it said registered as elleross [22:03]
elleross: do you see it now mircea [22:12]
mircea_popescu: lessee [22:27]
mircea_popescu: yup elleross one moment. [22:28]
mircea_popescu: elleross http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/BZ35J/?raw=true [22:33]
elleross: cool ok so what do I do now [22:48]
mircea_popescu: decrypt that and log in [22:50]
elleross: ok so I did and I got the username and password but when I try to log in says no such user [23:05]
elleross: mircea login isnt working [23:52]

July 21, 2017

#eulora Logs for 21 Jul 2017

Filed under: #eulora_irc,Logs — Diana Coman @ 12:00 am
mircea_popescu: diana_coman you got sb ? [21:14]
mircea_popescu: in a strange turn of events i'm out of chairs for the head [21:15]

July 19, 2017

#eulora Logs for 19 Jul 2017

Filed under: #eulora_irc,Logs — Diana Coman @ 12:00 am
diana_coman: mircea_popescu> why poor ? <- because she needs higher q bps to get same # of cft out of that bundle basically and otherwise she loots so poorly that it's a clear net loss overall [03:06]

July 18, 2017

#eulora Logs for 18 Jul 2017

Filed under: #eulora_irc,Logs — Diana Coman @ 12:00 am
mircea_popescu: aaand in other sad news, i now need 8 per click ;/ [12:59]
mircea_popescu: !~later tell birdman i possibly can get them made, ill look into it once the woa is done [13:15]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded. [13:15]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, 8 what? [14:37]
mircea_popescu: 8 each. woa takes n ppb ss and qf [14:44]
diana_coman: ah [15:31]
diana_coman: in other eulora-style puzzles: mid-crafter + foxy's bundle for ~7 cft (671q) + bp q9 still yields (via loot) about …7 cft per click; + tpf! + occasionally sentiments [17:03]
diana_coman: poor fox [17:03]
mircea_popescu: why poor ? [17:53]

July 17, 2017

#eulora Logs for 17 Jul 2017

Filed under: #eulora_irc,Logs — Diana Coman @ 12:00 am
diana_coman: who's Ralph? [16:23]

July 11, 2017

#eulora Logs for 11 Jul 2017

Filed under: #eulora_irc,Logs — Diana Coman @ 12:00 am
Birdman: anyone wanna sell me a 2 use chetty stick? ill pay whatever i need to get it done [17:16]
Birdman: or a few if it makes it more viable [17:16]
Birdman: hey lobbes when / where can i give you some coppers [18:23]
mod6: how can one tell if a chetty stick is 2 use or not? [18:58]
Birdman: its durability [19:16]
Birdman: so one use is something like 20202 [19:16]
mod6: ah, ok. [19:20]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-11#1681522 << how's teh fhf perfing coming along ? [19:23]
mircea_popescu: oops [19:23]
lobbes: Birdman> hey lobbes when / where can i give you some coppers << hey. I'm around now if you are [20:50]
Birdman: meet in town / whats my tab at [20:51]
lobbes: lumped together, it comes to 308957 ecu [20:52]
lobbes: I'ma hop on. one sec.. [20:52]
Birdman: keep the change lobbes [20:54]
lobbes: thanks! :D [20:55]
Birdman: npnp tyty [20:55]

July 7, 2017

#eulora Logs for 07 Jul 2017

Filed under: #eulora_irc,Logs — Diana Coman @ 12:00 am
mod6: heeey, nice. finally dug up some SRs. [12:13]
mod6: lol, awesome, there are Eulora YT vids posted. [15:54]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron did them i think\ [16:05]
mod6: ah, yeah, by watching the auction vid, you can see him in there making bids. hehe [17:24]
mod6: pretty cool. [17:24]
mircea_popescu: neat yea [18:47]
mircea_popescu: i think this is his busy time of year though, hasn't been sdaying much. [18:48]

July 6, 2017

#eulora Logs for 06 Jul 2017

Filed under: #eulora_irc,Logs — Diana Coman @ 12:00 am
lobbesbot: Post from eulora: MiniGame (S.MG), June 2017 Statement <http://trilema.com/2017/minigame-smg-june-2017-statement/> [09:38]

July 3, 2017

#eulora Logs for 03 Jul 2017

Filed under: #eulora_irc,Logs — Diana Coman @ 12:00 am
lobbes: <hanbot> [02:46:30] lobbes i'll gladly pay lumpily. i'll be around for the next hour, otherwise tomorrow same time. << excellent. I'll be around for the next few hours, so just let me know once you're ready [21:27]
lobbes: with lumps, it comes to 44200 ecu [21:27]
hanbot: heya, i can meet you in town atm lobbes [21:27]
lobbes: sweet! I'ma log on. Gimme 5 mins or so.. [21:28]
lobbes: hanbot: k, I'm in town [21:34]
lobbes: ty! [21:35]
hanbot: thanks lobbes :) [21:35]

July 2, 2017

#eulora Logs for 02 Jul 2017

Filed under: #eulora_irc,Logs — Diana Coman @ 12:00 am
diana_coman: lobbes, you around? [08:34]
lobbes: diana_coman, I'll be around in a few hours. I'll give you a ping [12:44]
mircea_popescu: lol bot reset eh ? [12:46]
diana_coman: aha, bot reset :p [14:43]
lobbes: diana_coman: I'm now by heina whenever you want to trade [15:18]
diana_coman: lobbes, trade foxy please [15:18]
lobbes: k [15:19]
lobbes: thank you! [15:20]
diana_coman: thanks! [15:20]
diana_coman: ah, mircea_popescu can collect the sentiments whenever convenient [15:23]
mircea_popescu: can be now, trade me [15:28]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman [15:28]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, trade? [15:31]
mircea_popescu: 1sec [15:36]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman now pls [15:37]
diana_coman: thank you! [15:38]
mircea_popescu: tybm [15:38]
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-03#1678625 << speaking of which, Birdman hanbot I can lump your q1 and q2 payments into one for simplicity. I'm off for now, but I'll be around this week [22:37]
hanbot: lobbes i'll gladly pay lumpily. i'll be around for the next hour, otherwise tomorrow same time. [22:46]

July 1, 2017

#eulora Logs for 01 Jul 2017

Filed under: #eulora_irc,Logs — Diana Coman @ 12:00 am
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I'll take another woa batch in any case; what's available? [09:26]
mircea_popescu: lemme see here! [09:26]
mircea_popescu: 396 q 233 ? [09:26]
diana_coman: sure [09:27]
mircea_popescu: same price ? can just have it directly [09:27]
diana_coman: works, 1 sec [09:27]
mircea_popescu: kk [09:27]
mircea_popescu: !~calc 18.7/235/208 * 396 &* 233 [09:28]
diana_coman: !~calc 396*2.33*3.12*12255 [09:28]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: I could not find an output from Google Calc for: 18.7/235/208 * 396 &* 233 [09:28]
jhvh1: diana_coman: 396*2.33*3.12*12255 = 3.5279223408E7 [09:28]
mircea_popescu: !~calc 18.7/235/208 * 396 * 233 [09:28]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 18.7/235/208 * 396 * 233 = 35.29892798690671 [09:28]
mircea_popescu: check out teh diff lmao [09:28]
diana_coman: lol [09:28]
mircea_popescu: 35.28, worx [09:28]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron did you want some btw ? [09:29]
mircea_popescu: feels kinda bad not selling dpb any seeing how it's his bps. [09:29]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman ty! [09:29]
diana_coman: thanks [09:29]
diana_coman: I gathered he did not want it? [09:29]
diana_coman: or not at this price in any case? [09:29]
mircea_popescu: that just about wipes me ; but the good news is the clicking's ongoing so [09:29]
mircea_popescu: mmm [09:30]
mircea_popescu: i dun recall his saying much either way [09:30]
diana_coman: I recall he calculated in here the price at auction and then did not bid so… [09:30]
mircea_popescu: 11 days = 400 woa just about. you burn it this fast ? [09:30]
diana_coman: it moved onto 11 per click :p [09:30]
diana_coman: and ftr I did not even do only woa anyway [09:31]
mircea_popescu: ah [09:31]
lobbesbot: — end of auction list, 0 total bids — [09:31]
mircea_popescu: im guessing better buy these while they're out huh. [09:31]
mircea_popescu: !Qbid 127 16mn [09:31]
diana_coman: I was just considering whether to cancel this auction seeing lack of interest, lol [09:32]
mircea_popescu: how's cancelling help ? [09:32]
diana_coman: I'm kind of curious at what point Foxy's skill flips the cost significantly lower [09:32]
mircea_popescu: thing is, 2k is ~nothing. not even a click for me. [09:33]
diana_coman: it helps me in that it takes something out of the "keeping track of x" [09:33]
diana_coman: sentiments? how many sentiments is one click for you? [09:33]
mircea_popescu: like 11k ? [09:33]
diana_coman: really? more than 1 stack? hmm [09:33]
mircea_popescu: myeah [09:33]
mircea_popescu: i dunno, maybe has changed, but yeah. [09:34]
diana_coman: so I'd better make more fast then, lol [09:34]
mircea_popescu: that's the problem there, see, i can't do these clicks, take too long [09:34]
mircea_popescu: which is why im hesitant to buy [09:34]
diana_coman: I have some more but different q [09:34]
mircea_popescu: we gotta figure something out with the long term crafts [09:34]
diana_coman: well, next week no downtime so…go and click [09:34]
mircea_popescu: lol. [09:34]
diana_coman: :P [09:35]
mircea_popescu: figure out what a 80mn click would take hm ? [09:35]
diana_coman: sings "not my problem tra la la" [09:35]
mircea_popescu: oh i see how it IS [09:35]
diana_coman: plenty in the "my problem" pile :p [09:35]
mircea_popescu: anjyway, it'll wait till we get the mechanics in to fix it. [09:36]
diana_coman: but then hmmm, lvl3 are totally out of question [09:36]
mircea_popescu: not like i dun have what to click [09:36]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman no, because see they take less. course that less is more… [09:36]
diana_coman: really? less value in there? [09:36]
mircea_popescu: lemme look [09:36]
diana_coman: because then honestly, I should better focus on making lvl3 it follows [09:37]
mircea_popescu: between 5 and 619 vvv [09:37]
diana_coman: if lvl2 can actually wait [09:37]
mircea_popescu: so you know, 62mn base. [09:37]
diana_coman: 700 lvl 3 not bad [09:37]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman problem is bp is q 1k [09:37]
mircea_popescu: those take longer [09:37]
diana_coman: o.O [09:37]
diana_coman: indeed [09:37]
mircea_popescu: im not even sure this shouldn't be mirc bundled and noob clicked [09:38]
diana_coman: and slightly related – I got about 10 bods zuper q 970+ – any interest? [09:38]
diana_coman: not noob! [09:38]
diana_coman: intermediate [09:38]
mircea_popescu: why ? [09:38]
diana_coman: with a noob you risk ending up with no loot, lol [09:38]
mircea_popescu: what, just get nothing ?! [09:39]
diana_coman: see my previous detailed experience with noob-click on bundle and change of phase [09:39]
mircea_popescu: oh that [09:39]
mircea_popescu: hm. [09:39]
diana_coman: get a huge output and no loot if before that threshold whatever it is [09:39]
diana_coman: huge q I mean [09:39]
lobbesbot: — end of auction list, 16mn total bids — [10:31]
diana_coman: hm, Fox gets 200 sentiments per 11 woa; that means some… 6k only, out of all the woa so not really doing much if you click more than 11k in one go mircea_popescu [14:41]
mircea_popescu: aha [14:49]
mircea_popescu: iu think woa is more of a strategic stock than anything [14:56]
diana_coman: sounds like it, yes [15:00]
lobbesbot: — end of auction list, 16mn total bids — [15:31]
lobbes: mircea_popescu, one sec I gotta boot into winblows box and login. will ping once ready [22:34]
mircea_popescu: kk [22:34]
lobbes: also, for general audience: q2 billz out. http://lobbesblog.com/billing/2017/q2/ and deeded [22:34]
lobbes: mircea_popescu: alright, I'm next to you in-game once you are ready [22:51]
mircea_popescu: worx [22:52]
mircea_popescu: lobbes trade me. how much did it come to ? [22:52]
lobbes: if you want to just do both Minigame and your lumped, it'd come to 269400 ecu [22:52]
lobbes: *yours [22:52]
mircea_popescu: cool [22:52]
mircea_popescu: right click and it's a hand/bag button [22:52]
mircea_popescu: ty [22:53]
lobbes: ty! [22:53]
mircea_popescu: A+ would auction again [22:53]
lobbes: y'all come back now [22:54]
lobbesbot: — end of auction list, 16mn total bids — [23:31]

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