#eulora Logs for 17 Feb 2016



February 17th, 2016 by Diana Coman
Birdman: somethin in foxybot is giving it the overweight message after i got some boulders [00:07]
Birdman: oop but its still working, while getting that message [00:08]
mircea_popescu: davout http://dpaste.com/0D9T5ZR [00:10]
mircea_popescu: damn. [00:10]
mircea_popescu: sooo, if anyone's curious : 95 CS, 14 ords + 81 smalls -> 5837 cr q 227. [01:20]
mircea_popescu: 20200 * 95 + 14 * 19822 + 81 * 7 * 180 * 1.5 = 2349598 ; 5837 × 2.27 × 73 = 967249.27 [01:21]
mircea_popescu: that'd be ~1.4mn loss, but i do have a remarkable to show for it, which is probably worth just about there. [01:22]
danielpbarron: so that remarkable's gotta profit you 952k to break even [01:22]
mircea_popescu: yeah. prev one made me like 3mn iirc [01:23]
Birdman: not bad [01:23]
Birdman: anyone have a sortage skill book to sell? [01:33]
diana_coman: <mircea_popescu> I HAVE NO LOWEST SKILL <- how is that? what, you have highest building and gathering now? [03:07]
diana_coman: <Birdman> somethin in foxybot is giving it the overweight message after i got some boulders <- no, it's not something in foxybot "giving it "that pox of a message; all that foxybot does is to *let you know* that the client received that message although it makes no sense [03:10]
Birdman: thats what i meant then [03:11]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu> fltosam is a bitch <- it is; now I *can* quite get it with the bot improvement thing, but getting loads of high q is still not exactly easy; so far I kind of processed myself everything I got [03:14]
diana_coman: if people are after it, I suppose I'll put some on the block too at the next digging run [03:14]
Birdman: im interested [03:34]
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jurov: DicePower: read http://minigame.bz/jurov/ closely [08:19]
jurov: the git repo is hosted there too, since github is supposedly [08:19]
jurov: the girls develop happily without public git at all, leaving cleanup of various *~ and .bak files to me [08:26]
mircea_popescu: you know what Birdman i'll take those bps. [09:09]
mircea_popescu: spends all this time getting out btk ingredients out of storage, then realises he wanted to make samovars. [09:48]
danielpbarron: oh it occurred to me this morning that we're probably enjoying the limited freebie of actually seeing the quality of everything [11:44]
danielpbarron: i can imagine a future in which there is a skill line dedicated to assaying and certifying the quality of things for players [11:45]
mircea_popescu: be a while. [11:45]
mircea_popescu: and it won't be a skill per se, it'll be a retinue npc. [11:45]
fghj: I have 2 stacks of rf and 4 stacks of grass q5 for sale [12:27]
diana_coman: what do you want for the grass fghj ? [12:28]
fghj: 1,90M? [12:28]
diana_coman: ok, I'll take it [12:29]
diana_coman: thanks! [12:30]
diana_coman: and btw I'll buy any quantities of grass really [12:30]
diana_coman: so feel free to get more [12:30]
jurov: fghj, want some building? [12:42]
fghj: ords? yes [12:43]
jurov: smalls [12:44]
fghj: what kind? if it's something exotic I would [12:45]
hanbot: yeah jurov, if you have any smalls of strippers i'll do those too. [12:47]
jurov: just flotsam and cr.. and if i raised the share to 20\% [12:47]
jurov: ? [12:47]
hanbot: strippers...exotic dancers... [12:48]
hanbot: goes back to joke school [12:48]
jurov: only if i could overcraft them [12:48]
hanbot: hehe [12:49]
fghj: flotsam is common, how much of them crumbly rocks do you have? [12:50]
jurov: but looky how the noobs got picky.. i'm prolly to mine them myself at > 50\% loss or hoard... [12:50]
jurov: fghj 36 so far [12:50]
fghj: that's a lot, maybe 5 of them I could do for te h lolz [12:51]
jurov: eh, 100 clicks won't kill you [12:51]
hanbot: jurov i'd say hoard, esp since ennumerations won't come gratis in future [12:51]
jurov: hanbot but mining wouldn't be free in the future either [12:52]
fghj: I have somwhere between 2 and 5k of flotsam q5 somewhere in my storage [12:52]
jurov: so best to mine them now as i'm going [12:52]
jurov: fghj, so, get 20\% of the cr, make slags [12:53]
jurov: *exploring won't be free, i mean [12:53]
jurov: or does anyone get small barehanded? [12:53]
jurov: smalls [12:53]
fghj: are your crumbly rocks densely packed? Also I've heard that there is blueprints crisis? [12:54]
jurov: crisis is mostly about tinkering blueprints that can be used in several ways [12:55]
jurov: mining afaik can be used only for mining [12:55]
jurov: so, why wait [12:55]
jurov: and they are in one area, yes [12:55]
jurov: fghj there? [13:00]
fghj: If they are too densely packed there might be trouble with selecting and makes piloting more time consuming [13:01]
jurov: no they are in line, no pilot needed [13:01]
fghj: so some of them might be outright in the same spot? [13:02]
jurov: some are close, but i was able to lock them by hand [13:03]
jurov: you think i'm setting you up or what? [13:03]
danielpbarron: jurov> or does anyone get small barehanded? << yes i do [13:03]
fghj: ^ I sometimes too [13:03]
jurov: me too but like one in 100 [13:04]
jurov: recently [13:04]
jurov: before it was more common [13:04]
fghj: @setting up or what Just that for example with grass it's much faster for me to gather and explore with bot and get about 85\% than to build someone else [13:05]
danielpbarron: fghj, i'll take the fruit [13:06]
fghj: I didn't try crumbly rocks yet [13:06]
fghj: @dpr or I'll be in town in 2m [13:06]
jurov: they are harder to mine than grass [13:06]
jurov: eh, take it or leave it. perhaps someone else will come [13:07]
jurov: perhaps DicePower will move beyond his stats compulsion actually into the game [13:07]
fghj: @jurov I'll make a try for cr sometime this week and maybe contact you later [13:08]
jurov: may i know what so important and profitable are you doing right now? [13:10]
fghj: grass? [13:10]
jurov: barehanded? [13:10]
fghj: with hoes [13:11]
fghj: I buy few k of cft bout 10 hoes and sell for millions [13:11]
jurov: sigh. i'm every day closer to ditching grundin [13:12]
jurov: seeing this [13:12]
mircea_popescu: damn i missed the auction ? [13:21]
mircea_popescu: fghj stiull got the rf ? [13:21]
fghj: nope, I think 1k left in storage somewhere but not sure [13:24]
danielpbarron: now i got a days worth of disgusting goop to craft [13:26]
mircea_popescu: aw. well, i guess nexct time maybe proper auction it ? [13:26]
mircea_popescu: jurov> or does anyone get small barehanded? << i get maybe a few \% yes [13:27]
jurov: why did you make the medium players so useless? [13:28]
mircea_popescu: this too shall pass! [13:28]
mircea_popescu: it's the necessary correlate of a homeostatic system that some parts will be high and some low at all times. [13:28]
danielpbarron: jurov, can't you invest in ranking up tinkering? I mean i would buy whatver you make along the way [13:31]
danielpbarron: be it slag, threads, shavings, whatever [13:31]
jurov: haven't you complained about the same thing yestaerday? [13:32]
jurov: and i'd gladly do slag, if someone like fghj helped me mine it [13:32]
jurov: complained that you can't really rank up in tinkering [13:32]
danielpbarron: yeah the hard part will by buying the ingredients.. i think you might have to buy high quality and overcraft [13:32]
danielpbarron: since you probably can't profit off buying low quality to under [13:33]
jurov: overcrafting turned out sour, too [13:33]
mircea_popescu: had he bought the rf you bought he'd have profitedf too neh ? [13:33]
danielpbarron: idk what his tinkering output is [13:33]
jurov: 97 [13:33]
danielpbarron: ah, then yes [13:33]
danielpbarron: lol [13:33]
danielpbarron: tsk tsk [13:33]
danielpbarron: 97 isn't bad at all [13:33]
mircea_popescu: notrly, no. [13:33]
danielpbarron: this should make for some interesting auctions [13:34]
mircea_popescu: you bidding sunday ? [13:34]
danielpbarron: sure [13:34]
mircea_popescu: kinda curious what it ends up going for. [13:34]
danielpbarron: but i meant the little auctions in here [13:34]
jurov: and my building is 120. but noone will pay enough for me to cover at least the cft. [13:34]
mircea_popescu: is just finishing a 150 io run, with q19 bundles. [13:35]
mircea_popescu: was sweet. [13:35]
danielpbarron: if people like fghj start auctioning their basics rather than just selling to whoever says first [13:35]
danielpbarron: wtf 120 ?? [13:35]
danielpbarron: you're higher than me there [13:35]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron i have nfi why he does that, so bizarre. [13:35]
danielpbarron: why are you complaining jurov [13:35]
danielpbarron: do you have sortage? [13:35]
jurov: yes. cuz im losing on everything [13:35]
danielpbarron: buy a good hammer and a sortage book and go build! [13:36]
jurov: wtf is that? [13:36]
mircea_popescu: he said he had it no ? [13:36]
jurov: i have only sortage skill [13:36]
jurov: no idea what to do with it [13:36]
danielpbarron: with quality 120 without the mining skill just imagine what quality moss and stuff you could be making [13:36]
mircea_popescu: this is a point. [13:36]
mircea_popescu: i'd buy high q pss, for instance. [13:37]
jurov: i *did* the moss [13:37]
danielpbarron: well you need the mining skill [13:37]
jurov: and got only a small part of cft+tools [13:37]
danielpbarron: that's probably the easiest of the three to get [13:37]
mircea_popescu: a few easy q points there as you level the early easy levels. [13:37]
jurov: only the luck saved me a bit [13:37]
danielpbarron: each tiny is pure profit [13:37]
mircea_popescu: jurov it's a lot of variance. you saw my most recent 95 cs run ? [13:37]
jurov: no [13:38]
danielpbarron: i paid like 60 or 70 per bit recently, they turn into things worth over 100 [13:38]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron i'd expect lbn to be sustainable under 100 for a while actually. [13:38]
mircea_popescu: so yeah [13:38]
jurov: there is a mining skill? [13:38]
danielpbarron: yes! [13:38]
danielpbarron: i have some of them [13:38]
jurov: do you sell? [13:39]
danielpbarron: it's listed in my shop [13:39]
danielpbarron: 5mn [13:39]
mircea_popescu: jurov at least you didn't "win" on trying to buy the smg bundle and sell the parts lol [13:39]
hanbot: jurov i also sell hammers [13:39]
hanbot: (for mining) [13:39]
hanbot: (or clunking) [13:40]
jurov: hammers are mining tools? [13:40]
mircea_popescu: also 5mn ? [13:40]
danielpbarron: ironically mining is now the most abundant gathering skill after having spent time as the only one not found at all [13:40]
hanbot: 3mn atm [13:40]
mircea_popescu: jurov it gives you the skill. [13:40]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron funny how that works huh! [13:40]
danielpbarron: jurov, remember the smelly murky something? [13:41]
danielpbarron: it's like that; you /use it and you have a new skill [13:41]
jurov: ok, i'll buy one. and what does it do? improves luck or output q? [13:41]
danielpbarron: or just drop it on your character in the inventory window [13:41]
danielpbarron: it's like sortage but for things listed under mining [13:41]
jurov: ok hanbot, are you in town? [13:42]
hanbot: mhm [13:42]
mircea_popescu: anyone happen to have any wood or rock double distillate bps ? look closely in your inventory, they're worth a fortune to me. [13:42]
danielpbarron: does it have to be double? [13:43]
mircea_popescu: yeah. [13:44]
mircea_popescu: i was planning to hunt for it making singles, but... never got around to really doing it, and well... now those days are gone [13:44]
mircea_popescu: sadness. [13:44]
hanbot: i have no idea what crafts even yield those, never seen em [13:44]
danielpbarron: i saw them, and the triples too way back when in electron's shop [13:44]
mircea_popescu: yeah well... [13:44]
jurov: mircea_popescu: i have 1 wd [13:44]
hanbot: ouch [13:44]
mircea_popescu: jurov plain distillates i have myself. [13:45]
mircea_popescu: in other arcana news, anyone got doubtful tome doodles ? [13:46]
hanbot: gl jurov! [13:46]
jurov: thanks hanbot. [13:47]
danielpbarron: has doubtful tome doodles [13:48]
jurov: now, say i mine q120 sm. would anyone ever buy it for 2*base value so that I won't starve? [13:48]
jurov: I doubt very much. [13:48]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron how many what q how much per ? [13:48]
mircea_popescu: jurov if you actually make back 50\% on a bad run you'll be rich. [13:49]
mircea_popescu: i'm quite happy with 40\%ish [13:49]
jurov: so how do you recoup? [13:49]
mircea_popescu: that's why i asked about the cs run, it's a fine example. [13:49]
danielpbarron: very few [13:49]
mircea_popescu: http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-02-17.log.html#t06:20:02 [13:49]
mircea_popescu: 967249/2349598 =41\% or so [13:50]
danielpbarron: q122 and i'm not looking to sell them for what i have written down as the base value, or even several multiples of that [13:50]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron how about 50k each ? [13:51]
danielpbarron: i don't need copper so badly [13:52]
jurov: mircea_popescu: you did not have to buy cs and other materials at 1.25 [13:52]
mircea_popescu: jurov no, i only paid 1100\% on them [13:52]
danielpbarron: where can i get 1.25 on sticks? [13:52]
hanbot: lol [13:53]
mircea_popescu: everything i used there came out of q 5-7 base items i paid like .8 each. [13:53]
mircea_popescu: so in some cases, 1600\% [13:53]
jurov: wait waht, i am talikng about the cs run [13:53]
mircea_popescu: well no, you talked about sourcing the materials used in the run [13:54]
jurov: it shows you using q 180 cft [13:54]
mircea_popescu: i didn't buy, i made. [13:54]
jurov: how do i make such cft? [13:54]
jurov: ... [13:54]
mircea_popescu: uh... bv. that's the bv of cft [13:54]
danielpbarron: 180 [13:54]
mircea_popescu: and ftr i used to make q 220 cft back in the day. just... gone. [13:54]
jurov: okay, q 150 it is, point stands [13:54]
mircea_popescu: what point ? [13:55]
danielpbarron: i'm guessing there will be a magic skill in the future that lets you bump up quality on stuff [13:55]
jurov: i can't do the same thing [13:55]
mircea_popescu: the cft was like 150k, barely 5\% of the entire run. [13:55]
mircea_popescu: jurov what "same thing" ? [13:55]
jurov: make myself cft and go mining with it [13:56]
jurov: the result would be appalling [13:56]
mircea_popescu: what i said was that if you come back with 50\% you're prolly ok, seeing how ~excluding the extremely rare lucky hit~ my runs are actually worse than that. [13:56]
jurov: and I have no chance to get a remakrable on top of all it [13:56]
mircea_popescu: you don't ? [13:57]
jurov: or to build it [13:57]
mircea_popescu: so sell it. [13:57]
jurov: noone wants my flotsam remarkable [13:57]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron wanted what, 1bn for his sizable ? :D [13:57]
mircea_popescu: how much for it jurov ? [13:57]
jurov: "impossible ingredients!!!11" [13:57]
hanbot: jurov mind that the marker type isn't the end-all be-all. i got insane amts of grass and tpt from smalls. [13:57]
danielpbarron: i'll give ya 1mn for it jurov [13:57]
mircea_popescu: 1.1 [13:57]
jurov: you want to auction it? [13:58]
danielpbarron: 1.16 [13:58]
mircea_popescu: 1.2 :D [13:59]
danielpbarron: 1.26 [13:59]
mircea_popescu: jurov we're apparently auctioning it already lol. [13:59]
mircea_popescu: waits to see if jurov is actually going with it or not before continuing. [13:59]
jurov: okay [13:59]
mircea_popescu: 1.5! [13:59]
jurov: 24h auction it is then [13:59]
danielpbarron: 1.58 [14:00]
mircea_popescu: meh! [14:00]
hanbot: what's needed to build it? [14:00]
danielpbarron: has no idea [14:00]
mircea_popescu: goes to look if diana has it [14:00]
hanbot: i dun see it [14:01]
mircea_popescu: i'm not gonna beat 1.58 [14:02]
jurov: http://www.explo.yt/eulora/remarkableflotsam.png [14:02]
hanbot: o ty [14:02]
mircea_popescu: not so terrible. except for the wdd [14:02]
hanbot: do you have 18 grc?! [14:03]
mircea_popescu: by the looks of it danielpbarron will end up a sort of mining magnate, holding tons of claims. [14:03]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu> in other arcana news, anyone got doubtful tome doodles ? <- I do [14:03]
mircea_popescu: 50k ea suit you ? [14:04]
mircea_popescu: btw jurov show diana the enum in game so the bot can see it. [14:05]
diana_coman: I'll have to check wtf is that when next at game comp - should be in ~1hr [14:06]
diana_coman: but I know for sure I have it [14:06]
mircea_popescu: k [14:06]
jurov: why do i have to resort to such fits to dig new information, such as the mining skill? [14:06]
mircea_popescu: no rush im just here making oil to make shaped slafg to make samovars to make etc etc. [14:06]
mircea_popescu: jurov you could also read the chan lol. how else ? [14:06]
danielpbarron: it was in the log [14:06]
danielpbarron: and the auction [14:07]
diana_coman: jurov, I said it in the logs and it was even part of the discussion several times really [14:07]
mircea_popescu: yeah didn't grenadine auction some sunday ? [14:07]
hanbot: mhm [14:07]
jurov: i have nfi what are hammers for [14:07]
jurov: *had [14:07]
mircea_popescu: well yeah but we can't go around asking you to make sure you fi or nfi what any discrete item is. the traditional solution is that when you nfi you ask. [14:08]
hanbot: well to be fair, i kept the secret for a while. it's been out of the bag since i sold a set of 15iirc to diana (two weeks?) [14:08]
jurov: so, you can please explain me all the items the were auctioned? [14:08]
jurov: i had nfi about *any* of them [14:09]
danielpbarron: apparently the thing i won was blueprints to make a sort of ink for writing blueprints [14:09]
mircea_popescu: well obvioujsly, they were new. that's kinda the point of s.mg auctions [14:09]
danielpbarron: but i didn't know this when i bid on it [14:09]
mircea_popescu: i imagine eulora comings and goings must be a little surreal by now huh. [14:10]
jurov: danielpbarron: you mean the desspayr recipes? [14:11]
danielpbarron: ya [14:11]
danielpbarron: the the ampules are what they go into [14:11]
danielpbarron: or should i say, the ampules go into them [14:12]
jurov: ok. pertrified bubbles are some crafting material? [14:12]
danielpbarron: actually they are a mining gatherable [14:12]
mircea_popescu: actually ampoules take charcoal, then together with the black and tokens they do... something. [14:12]
danielpbarron: black also needs ampoules [14:12]
mircea_popescu: oh. [14:12]
mircea_popescu: in that case... hm. [14:13]
danielpbarron: or else i'd have made them already [14:13]
mircea_popescu: myeah. [14:13]
jurov: the bouquinist considerations are skill item? [14:13]
danielpbarron: probably not [14:14]
mircea_popescu: it's not actually known what it is yet. [14:14]
mircea_popescu: but it seems a recipe. [14:14]
danielpbarron: the skill item for bouq is the book of old lists [14:14]
mircea_popescu: right. [14:14]
diana_coman: jurov> ok. pertrified bubbles are some crafting material? <- petrified bubbles are a mining resource for which the main known use at the moment is as ingredient for making turning wheels (the lapidary table) [14:39]
jurov: thanks [14:40]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I can sell 20 doubtful tome doodles for 50k each; you might want to know upfront that they take 1 canine each; q on them is 8 [14:42]
diana_coman: http://dianacoman.com/Eulora/Doubtful-Tome.html [14:42]
mircea_popescu: ima take 'em [15:12]
mircea_popescu: got canines ? [15:12]
mircea_popescu: incidentally, danielpbarron or whoever interested : i'd be willing to dig up your basic remarkables if you have the requisites. [15:14]
mircea_popescu: for a fee tbn. [15:14]
mircea_popescu: output q > 220 [15:14]
diana_coman: hm, I'd certainly NOT want to lose that xp though [15:15]
diana_coman: re canines don't really think so :( [15:15]
mircea_popescu: aha. [15:16]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman well yeah, it's a q vs xp thing [15:16]
diana_coman: do you want the ingredients for 100 adzes now or do you prefer the whole set (should be +300 pickaxes) tomorrow ? [15:18]
mircea_popescu: tomorrow - doing some ss of my own atm and dun wanna mix it [15:18]
mircea_popescu: ty diana_coman [15:24]
diana_coman: enjoy the doodles [15:24]
fghj: ok, so I decided to bow to the demands of public I'm dragging 37970 of grass q5 into town aaaaand auction form 1.85m [15:53]
diana_coman: fghj, 1.85mn [15:53]
jurov: 2mn [15:55]
mircea_popescu: lol i'm out. [15:59]
mircea_popescu: jurov once you're done cfting that make sure you auction it, i'd be interested. [15:59]
mircea_popescu: fghj see, a neat ~200k or so over what i'd have paid. which i imagine was more than anyone else paid on the black market ? [16:00]
jurov: fghj, you want to go on with the auction? [16:00]
mircea_popescu: jurov maybe until danielpbarron speaks ? [16:01]
jurov: isee [16:01]
fghj: It will end when I get into town probably [16:01]
jurov: if daniel doesn't want so much, i'm also willing to split by half, don't have so much bps anyway [16:01]
mircea_popescu: you only need 13k bps or so. [16:02]
jurov: aok :) [16:02]
mircea_popescu: jurov so did you have any canines btw ? [16:07]
jurov: what's the category? [16:07]
mircea_popescu: mining [16:07]
jurov: none [16:07]
mircea_popescu: so we're pretty fucked for canines are we. [16:08]
fghj: jurov a winner is you [16:08]
mircea_popescu: someone find them already wouldja [16:08]
mircea_popescu: 158 tinker q. for the sweet! [16:09]
jurov: fghj, thanks how much time did it take> [16:10]
jurov: ? [16:10]
fghj: dunno, I also walked the dog and read half of todays logs and newsites and stuff [16:11]
jurov: oh, approx [16:11]
fghj: let's Just say that /bot explore 15 and then moving loot to table because I was overweight doesnt take long [16:12]
diana_coman: heh, well done fghj , glad to hear you're putting foxybot to good use [16:12]
mircea_popescu: fghj making a killing in eulora ? :D [16:13]
fghj: nokill nokill [16:13]
mircea_popescu: lol [16:14]
fghj: and I carry between 2600 and 2900 of grass so 15 times 1min? [16:14]
fghj: Heard that joke about dude on safari? his friend asks what he hunted while there and he answers 4 lions 6 zebras and 15 nokills [16:15]
fghj: what's nokill? duno has 2 legs black and screams nokill [16:16]
mircea_popescu: lol [16:17]
mircea_popescu: get a load of this danielpbarron : bundle q155, product q158, yet i loot. [16:19]
diana_coman: what q is bp mircea_popescu ? [16:20]
mircea_popescu: 200ish [16:20]
diana_coman: so that might actually tip the scale? [16:20]
mircea_popescu: it must [16:21]
diana_coman: ftr mircea_popescu indeed I can also trade while working basically, at least on oil [16:27]
diana_coman: so dunno, indeed the us thing is special, lol [16:28]
mircea_popescu: aha. [16:32]
mircea_popescu: fghj btw, i want a lot of low q F, also sr. so get busy, millions of these are needed. [16:32]
mircea_popescu: and tell all yer friends. [16:33]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman now that noob(s) have figured out they can actually make money playing eulora, should be interesting how long before they manage to exhaust the tool supply altogether. [16:33]
mircea_popescu: since they're doing ok with tools, but pretty useless barehanded fwis, the chain of two (low q miner - > high q crafter) is bound to become a chain of 3, with noob miners begging vet miners to get them claims. [16:34]
diana_coman: wasn't it quite exhausted already? lolz; it depends more on whether we get any bps soon really [16:34]
mircea_popescu: at the rate we're going i don't see bps happening this month honestly. [16:34]
diana_coman: not sure about that because of bot thing [16:34]
diana_coman: ouch [16:34]
diana_coman: essentially it's very easy to make money by running the bot pretty much [16:35]
mircea_popescu: a) i've not even produced the ampoules ; b) there's no deal with daniel to make ink. [16:35]
mircea_popescu: so... [16:35]
diana_coman: but if done manually - things aren't really the same [16:35]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman but how much does one get running bot barehanded as a noob ? [16:35]
diana_coman: but what are you working on now? thing to build the remarkable ? [16:35]
diana_coman: that is neither here nor there [16:36]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman atm done making io, making ss to make samovars to make aw to trade wtih hanbot for tokens. [16:36]
diana_coman: by the looks of it noobs will not want to get claims because having to build them manually [16:36]
mircea_popescu: smalls - no. ords and above... likely, i'd say. [16:36]
diana_coman: well yes, but how often does a vet explorer get ords..barehanded [16:37]
diana_coman: not exactly a lot [16:37]
mircea_popescu: hm. [16:37]
mircea_popescu: didn't danielpbarron get that sizable bh ? [16:37]
diana_coman: barehanded? [16:37]
mircea_popescu: ya [16:37]
diana_coman: don't quite think so, no [16:37]
mircea_popescu: maybe im misremembering. [16:37]
diana_coman: danielpbarron, did you get that sizable barehanded? [16:37]
diana_coman: and in any case, what exactly does ONE claim, do [16:37]
diana_coman: lolz [16:37]
diana_coman: it's not as if he got even 1 ordinary per day for all the barehanded exploring he did [16:38]
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu> jurov maybe until danielpbarron speaks ? << nope. take it [16:38]
diana_coman: yes, he got *some* ordinaries, sure, I got some too [16:38]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman the only large claim mined to date took me ~10 hours to dig and output enough bv for maybe 250k grass low q. [16:38]
mircea_popescu: im sorry. 2.5mn grass, low q. [16:38]
diana_coman: yeah, well, next thing tell me exactly how many noobs you see around getting stuff like the remarkable takes, lol [16:39]
mircea_popescu: i can see myself selling bundles of that kind, really. just us. [16:39]
diana_coman: which takes st for one thing and cheez and all that jazz [16:39]
diana_coman: not really there yet [16:39]
diana_coman: it's all I'm saying [16:39]
mircea_popescu: yeah. [16:39]
mircea_popescu: anyway - should be interesting times. [16:39]
mircea_popescu: but at this point, severe tool penury seems a given. [16:40]
diana_coman: yeah, well, I'm doing what I can to get more tools, but there are obvious limitations in the long term - at least number of bps at the end of the day if nothing else [16:40]
mircea_popescu: yup. [16:40]
danielpbarron: with noob miners begging vet miners to get them claims. << aha! i already used all my saved up smalls because "nah it's more efficient on my own bla bla" well sure as long as there's still tools to buy !! :D [16:41]
mircea_popescu: lol [16:41]
diana_coman: btw with all this oil I'm crafting at 122 now - not that bad seeing how it's like 10 levels up for 1q point on tinkering, lol [16:42]
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu> a) i've not even produced the ampoules ; b) there's no deal with daniel to make ink. << how about 17mn for 200 (you provide amps) ? [16:42]
mircea_popescu: 122 is not terribru [16:42]
diana_coman: and I'll make all the shaped slag too so I'm looking forward to it, lol [16:42]
danielpbarron: diana_coman> well yes, but how often does a vet explorer get ords..barehanded << it happens; not often but it's not impossible [16:42]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron so i'm looking at getting middling q ink, which is on one hand a total killer because wtf, i need the oc ; and on the other fuck, amps cost money too. [16:43]
danielpbarron: diana_coman> danielpbarron, did you get that sizable barehanded? << no. pretty sure it was with imp hoe [16:43]
diana_coman: I know danielpbarron , but it was a matter of having enough to feed the noobs, that's all [16:43]
diana_coman: aha, mircea_popescu ^ [16:43]
mircea_popescu: i have a limited click count and i don't even want to click on lower-than-highest-possible bundles. [16:43]
danielpbarron: diana_coman> btw with all this oil I'm crafting at 122 now - not that bad seeing how it's like 10 levels up for 1q << that's cuz i'm tinkering along side you! we are cancelling each other's gains out.. maybe one of us should buy out the other? [16:44]
mircea_popescu: moreover, amps are lapidary. and i think maybe i suck at lapidary ? [16:44]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman do you recall what q you got and what q i got when we did that one click trial thing ? [16:45]
diana_coman: ah, let me see as I might have it [16:45]
diana_coman: danielpbarron, buy what out exactly? [16:45]
danielpbarron: i need the oc << why is that?? no more bp loot.. i don't see why overcraft is neccessary [16:45]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron i have like a hunch the considerations loot bps. [16:46]
jurov: thanks to wyrdmantis' will to cooperate, you can expect few k of fine slag from me soon (or ibs if you ask) [16:46]
mircea_popescu: jurov i want few million of each, so knock yourself out. [16:46]
danielpbarron: diana_coman, one of us should pay the other to stop overcrafting tinkering altogether [16:46]
diana_coman: danielpbarron, I don't see how is that possible [16:46]
danielpbarron: to stop ranking up basically [16:46]
mircea_popescu: pay me too ? [16:46]
danielpbarron: you don't effect us [16:46]
danielpbarron: you set the upper limit [16:46]
diana_coman: I doubt that danielpbarron [16:46]
mircea_popescu: o.O [16:46]
mircea_popescu: interesting theory. [16:46]
jurov: mircea_popescu: you go invent mass production [16:47]
danielpbarron: but diana_coman and i are competing for the #2 spot [16:47]
danielpbarron: and it's costing us [16:47]
diana_coman: danielpbarron, I don't think so, no [16:47]
danielpbarron: heh alright, enjoy taking 20 or however ranks to get a q point [16:47]
diana_coman: I am and have been for quite a while on the 2nd spot and tbh I never did any overcraft for this spot or like that [16:47]
diana_coman: I do the tinkering because I need the fucking stuff and there aren't enough tinkerers around [16:48]
danielpbarron: seems like every time i spy your table it's a >100 q bundle [16:48]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron how about this deal : you GIVE ME the desspayer bps, and i will pledge to give you the first sacrifice bps i get clicking, up to 1mn bv or 200 items, whichever comes sooner. [16:48]
danielpbarron: interesting [16:48]
diana_coman: yes, I do it mainly for sortage in fact + the noobs are not enough either [16:48]
danielpbarron: except that kinda deal didn't help diana_coman any when we did a similar thing [16:48]
mircea_popescu: this way you actually get something useful and it all works out nicely. [16:48]
danielpbarron: can you make part of the pledge that you will also not sell any to anyone else? [16:49]
danielpbarron: like with your scones [16:49]
mircea_popescu: what, ever ? [16:49]
danielpbarron: for X time [16:49]
diana_coman: danielpbarron, I didn't mean I don't do overcraft; I meant the reason I do it is not what you seem to assume namely 2nd rank tinkering lol [16:49]
mircea_popescu: that's the idea - you get the first batch., [16:49]
mircea_popescu: well the x time thing is problematic, who knows how long it will take to actually get stuff. [16:49]
mircea_popescu: i mean i could, but how do you know it'll help you. [16:50]
danielpbarron: hmm.. [16:50]
danielpbarron: diana_coman, i'm not saying you have any particular intent [16:50]
danielpbarron: but this is the situation as i see it [16:50]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron if you'd prefer a different line or something - i'm all open. [16:50]
danielpbarron: i could be persuaded to do other things and leave tinkering alone (except for undercraft which really doesn't compete with you) [16:50]
mircea_popescu: or maybe make a mix or w/e. [16:51]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I can't seem to find the q on that lapidary stuff ; what I can tell is that I got 110q last time I did any lapidary [16:51]
danielpbarron: nono i defo want sacrifice stuff, or rather faith line in general [16:51]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman but do you recall the test we did deliberately ? [16:51]
danielpbarron: altar bpts especially [16:51]
diana_coman: you mean I gave you the wheel to do 1 click, right? [16:51]
diana_coman: on a neckerbocker [16:51]
mircea_popescu: yea! [16:51]
danielpbarron: and supplications [16:51]
diana_coman: yes, I remember [16:51]
danielpbarron: are supplications part of this proposal? [16:51]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron ok, so then it can be altar. [16:51]
mircea_popescu: well yes that was the idea, the first bps of altar type i get, go to you. [16:52]
diana_coman: I don't recall the exact values though and for some reason I can't seem to find them now in the notes [16:52]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman nuts lol, seeing how the reason we even did it in the first place is ftr. [16:52]
mircea_popescu: ican't find it either. [16:52]
diana_coman: oh, actually I should have that neckerbocker? [16:52]
diana_coman: maybe [16:52]
diana_coman: mhm [16:52]
mircea_popescu: see if it has my mark. [16:52]
diana_coman: yeah, I know and I am quite sure I DID write it down ffs [16:53]
mircea_popescu: you need a toucan [16:53]
mircea_popescu: for secretarial duties. [16:53]
diana_coman: a whole flock of them [16:53]
diana_coman: danielpbarron, I honestly don't quite see the point of this kind of deals "I pay you to not do x" - for just one tiny thing what sense does it make when there can always be the next guy doing then the same? [16:54]
mircea_popescu: us born chick overlooking : "cume se zice toucan in romaneste ?" ; i explain it's not said in any way, to romanians the thing doesn't exist. so she proposes "pasa-re de dop". [16:54]
diana_coman: :))) [16:55]
mircea_popescu: all the wonder and splendor of having small children in the house - with none of the drawbacks. take in a slavegirl today! [16:55]
diana_coman: yaaaaay [16:55]
diana_coman: 115q mircea_popescu [16:55]
diana_coman: found the neckerbocker, lol [16:55]
mircea_popescu: wait so i make more than you ?! [16:55]
mircea_popescu: omgwtfbbq why are you such a noob diana_coman ! [16:56]
diana_coman: I have some I made at 161q! [16:56]
mircea_popescu: so mind clickingone telling me what you mnake now ? [16:56]
diana_coman: so choke on your neckerbocker mircea_popescu [16:56]
mircea_popescu: ewww [16:56]
diana_coman: well, when I get done with this round of stuff as I am overweight and I'm not going to move all the stuff around for 1 bloody neckerbocker [16:57]
mircea_popescu: kk. [16:57]
mircea_popescu: but if you do get a good q, how would you feel about making ampoules for me, with my charcoal and bps ? [16:57]
diana_coman: what's a good q? [16:58]
mircea_popescu: 150+ ? [16:58]
diana_coman: and you mean on my table or what's the point? [16:58]
diana_coman: oh, I don't think I still make that meanwhile [16:58]
mircea_popescu: hm. [16:58]
diana_coman: quite seriously doubt it, lol [16:58]
mircea_popescu: well maybe YOU should chocke on the neckerbocker! [16:58]
mircea_popescu: neckerchoker party! [16:59]
diana_coman: well, I have a whole load of them as there was pretty much nothing else to make - and they are useless too [16:59]
diana_coman: so yeah, I can throw quite some neckerbocker-party, lol [16:59]
mircea_popescu: lol [16:59]
mircea_popescu: of course... if ~I~ make them myself i stand to make a goodly pile of lapidary numina [17:00]
mircea_popescu: which i take are the rarest [17:00]
mircea_popescu: motherfucker this game [17:00]
diana_coman: you sure stand to make; quite possibly they are the rarest, no idea [17:00]
mircea_popescu: it's incomputable. [17:00]
mircea_popescu: what is best course ? [17:00]
mircea_popescu: maddening. [17:01]
diana_coman: no such thing! anathema! heresy! incomputability! [17:01]
mircea_popescu: i can't even fucking decide by what margin would me clicking be better than you clicking. [17:01]
mircea_popescu: strioke that, what margin. i can't even come up with a metric to sort these two! [17:01]
diana_coman: well, let's say that life has limited clicks in it and tinkering skill is so overwhelming everything else that I kind of lost interest in the skills that it affects - I do tinkering really because I need the things and apparently it's still the situation of "if you want something, gotta do it yourself" [17:03]
diana_coman: so you know, make it easy on yourself and go and click the wheel [17:03]
mircea_popescu: i guess that's a point yea [17:04]
mircea_popescu: clinkering. [17:04]
danielpbarron: i think i want first dibs on altar blueprints [17:10]
danielpbarron: even though technically i'm more limited by supplications atm [17:11]
danielpbarron: and the recipes for ink are worth more like 1.17 mn [17:11]
danielpbarron: times 1.25 is close to 1.5 mn [17:12]
danielpbarron: altar blueprints are probably worth like 100k each, at your quality maybe 200k, so that's like 7 to 10 blueprints [17:13]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron you mean altar bps as in, the mcguyver line altar bp ? [17:13]
danielpbarron: i have no idea [17:13]
danielpbarron: the thing that when the click is done, i have an altar to do sacrificing on [17:13]
mircea_popescu: but you mean the actual bp used to make an altar, like the bp to make worn screens [17:13]
danielpbarron: yeah [17:13]
mircea_popescu: right. [17:13]
mircea_popescu: so you want 1.5mn q-adjusted bv of those, first draw ? [17:14]
mircea_popescu: rather than 1mn/200 supps ? [17:14]
danielpbarron: yes [17:15]
mircea_popescu: alright, deal's fine with me. [17:15]
danielpbarron: cool [17:15]
mircea_popescu: hand em over at your leisure. [17:15]
mircea_popescu: in other news, this historical agreement has massively improved the outlook of bp production! [17:15]
danielpbarron: :D [17:16]
diana_coman: yaaay [17:16]
danielpbarron: i'm also in the market to ~buy~ any supplications you happen to make [17:16]
mircea_popescu: thanks all involved for their leadership &c. [17:16]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron really i intend to do it one click at a time and auction teh results. [17:16]
diana_coman: is still holding on closely to her full set of bps of all sorts [17:16]
danielpbarron: also good time to settle other debt [17:17]
mircea_popescu: ah good point. [17:17]
mircea_popescu: good deal! [17:17]
danielpbarron: ty :D [17:17]
danielpbarron: i hope i don't come to regret this one :/ [17:18]
danielpbarron: but it was my intention in buying those recipes that they were something to do with altar, so i guess this is best outcome i can muster [17:18]
mircea_popescu: well... i do imagine altar bps will be a lot fewer and farther between than mere sups. but then again - it does give you a nice handle on things. [17:18]
danielpbarron: i don't think it's any secret i want to be #1 sacrificer [17:18]
danielpbarron: really want that skill book named after me [17:19]
diana_coman: danielpbarron, you see, I rather think you'll be more likely to do a lot more altar staff (and hence less tinkering) when you get those bps and what you need rather than because I pay you not to do that [17:19]
danielpbarron: hey i would ~love~ if i had so much to sacrifice [17:19]
danielpbarron: not likely for a while though [17:19]
danielpbarron: or not even "some much to sacrifice" as i do have plenty, but the other prerequisites [17:20]
diana_coman: what are the prerequisites if it's not secret? or why can't you get them? [17:21]
danielpbarron: altar and supplications [17:21]
diana_coman: oh, are supps made also from the new lines? [17:21]
danielpbarron: there only exist 3 altars in the game [17:21]
diana_coman: (I have no idea) [17:21]
danielpbarron: i used to be able to make them [17:21]
danielpbarron: but now the supplication drafts are collecters items that do nothing [17:21]
danielpbarron: of which i have many [17:21]
danielpbarron: :/ [17:21]
diana_coman: ah, I thought it was only the basic ones that got turned to empty things [17:22]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron i have a shitton too. [17:22]
danielpbarron: .. i haven't tested.. [17:22]
mircea_popescu: like 10k altogether i'd guess. [17:22]
danielpbarron: i assumed they were all nerfed [17:22]
mircea_popescu: prolly pick em up and dump them in electron's lap one of these days [17:23]
danielpbarron: if you do i'd probably buy them for a little over what he offers [17:23]
mircea_popescu: ima look through storage one of these days an let you knwo [17:29]
mircea_popescu: now the #1 question remains whether 100 clicks on apprentice bookman will yield ... 100 apprentice bookmans. [17:31]
Birdman: mircea_popescu which bps were you interested in? [17:36]
Birdman: i also have a bunch of supplications [17:36]
Birdman: probably should've tried harder to sell em [17:36]
danielpbarron: you have completed supplications (not drafts) ?? [17:36]
Birdman: yeah [17:36]
danielpbarron: sell them to me [17:36]
Birdman: they still work? [17:36]
danielpbarron: yeah [17:37]
Birdman: oh sweet [17:37]
danielpbarron: it's only the drafts that don't work [17:37]
Birdman: ah [17:37]
Birdman: you payin bv? [17:37]
danielpbarron: yeah [17:37]
Birdman: almost in town now [17:37]
mircea_popescu: \x08<\x08Birdman\x08>\x08\x0F yeah ><< holy shit lol [17:39]
hanbot: wait what [17:39]
Birdman: what is is that crazy? [17:39]
hanbot: is this an exclusive deal Birdman? [17:39]
Birdman: well now, i suppose ill make an auction let me see what i have first [17:39]
mircea_popescu: are you crazy lol, supp drafts went away, supps made are worth their weight in gold [17:40]
Birdman: i figured they'd be made just with different ingreds or something [17:41]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron did you actually test this btw ? almanac draft goes in my head. [17:42]
danielpbarron: i didn't test any of them [17:42]
danielpbarron: you mean the lesser drafts don't even go in head anymore? [17:42]
mircea_popescu: hm no they do. [17:43]
mircea_popescu: well... i guess more research is needed! [17:43]
Birdman: Auctioning 56 supp of leather q39 and 49 supp of mosses q40 starting bid 460k [17:44]
Birdman: keeping my rare ones [17:44]
hanbot: 500k [17:44]
danielpbarron: ah, the page is totally blank [17:45]
Birdman: 500k heard! [17:45]
mircea_popescu: im curious wtf this goes to lol. [17:45]
danielpbarron: well i want the rare ones really [17:45]
mircea_popescu: 600k. [17:45]
Birdman: maybe at around 500\%, ive only like one of each and they costs me insane amounts to make considering the brews n vellums [17:46]
hanbot: 700k [17:46]
mircea_popescu: Birdman what's the bv on this like ? [17:46]
mircea_popescu: 1-2k each-ish ? [17:46]
Birdman: bv a q100 is about 3600 on each [17:46]
mircea_popescu: 750k [17:47]
Birdman: 750k heard mircea_popescu [17:47]
hanbot: 850k [17:47]
mircea_popescu: mk i'm out. [17:47]
hanbot: Birdman please do ping me if/when you decide to sell the rares. [17:47]
Birdman: 850k heard hanbot [17:47]
Birdman: you got it [17:47]
Birdman: do i hear any other bids for these fine supplications? [17:48]
danielpbarron: wait a sec [17:48]
danielpbarron: 893k [17:48]
hanbot: 950k [17:49]
danielpbarron: 998k [17:49]
hanbot: 1.1M [17:49]
mircea_popescu: that escalated quickly. [17:49]
danielpbarron: 1.16mn [17:49]
hanbot: 1.3 [17:50]
danielpbarron: 1.37 [17:50]
hanbot: 1.5 [17:50]
danielpbarron: bows out [17:50]
Birdman: sold to hanbot for 1.5mn ecu [17:51]
Birdman: in town with your prize [17:51]
danielpbarron: heh Birdman's probably so happy right now [17:51]
Birdman: and here i thought they were worthless [17:51]
mircea_popescu: pretty good auction. [17:51]
hanbot: :D [17:51]
danielpbarron: don't be a stranger with those rare ones [17:51]
hanbot: Birdman ready when you are. [17:51]
Birdman: i saved 10 of each of the common ones too [17:52]
Birdman: thanks [17:52]
hanbot: thanks [17:52]
diana_coman: congrats hanbot [17:52]
mircea_popescu: what do these make again ? i forget [17:53]
Birdman: mircea_popescu i do have a bunch of aw and wineskin bps if you're interested [17:53]
hanbot: dm & ss [17:53]
mircea_popescu: o hey nb. [17:53]
mircea_popescu: Birdman yeah. how much what count what q. [17:54]
danielpbarron: uh oh, clicking combine on the snails draft ingredients didn't give an error. i didn't crash the server did i? [17:54]
diana_coman: ahaha, so did you make a snails supp then danielpbarron ? [17:55]
danielpbarron: no, it didn't do anything [17:55]
danielpbarron: draft is empty / blank page [17:55]
mircea_popescu: doesn;'t seem to have done anything [17:55]
danielpbarron: but it does fit in my mind [17:55]
danielpbarron: just doesn't give an error like "can't combine these" or whatever it usually says [17:56]
danielpbarron: i should see if it degraded the screns [17:56]
diana_coman: aha, yes, no problem noted - foxy is happily crafting [17:56]
diana_coman: well, I suppose they fit in head as still bps technically, but they don't do anything as...empty [17:56]
mircea_popescu: makes sense. [17:56]
mircea_popescu: incidentally, anyone have ss high q ? [17:57]
danielpbarron: alright, no lost quality,no nothing [17:57]
Birdman: aw 1187 q8 ; 6521 wineskin q 6 [17:57]
Birdman: and as far as pricing goes [17:57]
danielpbarron: you mean blueprints? [17:58]
Birdman: yes [17:58]
diana_coman: I have 30 ss 136q, anyone wants them? [17:59]
mircea_popescu: how much did you say ? [17:59]
mircea_popescu: yes diana_coman [17:59]
Birdman: for the aw 5.5mn and the wineskin 11mn [17:59]
Birdman: about 1.25\% over 100qbv [17:59]
mircea_popescu: how about 10mn together Birdman [18:00]
Birdman: 12.5mn and you have a deal [18:00]
mircea_popescu: alright, sold. [18:01]
diana_coman: mind you that the pricing on the ss would have to be 3.5k at this moment due to what it cost me to get them [18:01]
diana_coman: each I mean, lol [18:01]
mircea_popescu: 1mn for the lot i can see diana_coman [18:01]
diana_coman: k [18:02]
Birdman: tyty [18:02]
danielpbarron: wait [18:02]
danielpbarron: on the ss [18:02]
diana_coman: danielpbarron, ? [18:02]
mircea_popescu: good deals Birdman [18:03]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron diana_coman deal's been tendered and tender accepted already! it'll hjave4 to be next batch. [18:03]
Birdman: thanks, i was meaning to ask ya about the wineskins for awhile now, glad i waited [18:03]
danielpbarron: okie doke [18:03]
diana_coman: yes mircea_popescu I'm getting them out now for you; but I still want to hear danielpbarron for next batch, lol [18:03]
mircea_popescu: kk [18:03]
diana_coman: danielpbarron, do go ahead [18:04]
jurov: diana_coman: do you happen to have high tlc, sg, md or dcs? [18:04]
jurov: need just a few [18:04]
diana_coman: also: anyone interested in 58 wineskins 124q? [18:04]
diana_coman: the items, NOT bps [18:04]
mircea_popescu: yes. [18:04]
danielpbarron: i guess it's not just noobs that suffer from rush-into-selling-thigns-to-the-first-who-makes-offer syndrome [18:04]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron i think she mines them [18:04]
danielpbarron: isn't that also how noobs get the things they sell prematurely? [18:05]
diana_coman: danielpbarron, I mine them AND I asked if anyone was interested first but didn't hear anything else [18:05]
danielpbarron: i can only crunch numbers so fast [18:05]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron yeah but she could mine a lot more if the price is met being the idea, so she doesn't care, will sell to all anyway [18:05]
danielpbarron: i tab back to chat and it's already sold [18:05]
diana_coman: but say that you are interested! [18:05]
diana_coman: and exactly what mircea_popescu said^ [18:05]
Birdman: can i get a sortage book from anyone? [18:05]
danielpbarron: it all happened so fast [18:05]
mircea_popescu: or at least that was my mental model. [18:05]
Birdman: danielpbarron how much for a good hammer? [18:06]
mircea_popescu: Birdman yeah, like me. [18:06]
danielpbarron: 5mn [18:06]
Birdman: how much for it mircea_popescu [18:06]
jurov: Birdman: hanbot sell for 3 [18:06]
jurov: *sells [18:06]
diana_coman: jurov, I have some sg for sure, like 11 at 141q [18:06]
mircea_popescu: iirc it was 100k/book ? i forget. anyone recall wtf i was charging per book ? [18:06]
danielpbarron: i'd match that but i just got the 4 and maybe it goes into a sacrfice that i haven't seen the supplication for yet [18:06]
jurov: diana_coman: i'll take. if you have also 2 or 4 tlc, that would be spiffy [18:06]
diana_coman: lol, I think the 1st level ones were 100k indeed mircea_popescu [18:06]
Birdman: it was that for the basic 1-100 books, though with the bp mess i wasnt sure of availability [18:06]
mircea_popescu: yeah. 100k Birdman [18:07]
diana_coman: oh, 2 I MUST have [18:07]
Birdman: awesome, trade whenever? [18:07]
mircea_popescu: ok lemme see here 1 sec. [18:07]
mircea_popescu: damn i don't have any pre-made. will have to make. you wanted just 1 ? [18:07]
diana_coman: danielpbarron, ftr I STILL have another set of 16ss so ... [18:07]
Birdman: yeah just one [18:08]
jurov: huhm what a crowd [18:08]
diana_coman: omg, which one of you is mircea_popescu ? [18:08]
diana_coman: lol [18:08]
mircea_popescu: ok ill add it to the makelist Birdman [18:08]
Birdman: thanks [18:08]
mircea_popescu: ty [18:08]
mircea_popescu: i guess with player count going up we'll need to add diff to avatars huh [18:08]
diana_coman: yeah, at least colours [18:09]
diana_coman: a chip on the shoulder [18:09]
mircea_popescu: putting it in the middle of the list. [18:09]
danielpbarron: is the one with a golden goose on his head [18:09]
danielpbarron: (not really, i keep that in storage except once a day briefly) [18:09]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman so what about wineskins ? [18:10]
diana_coman: 5 min mircea_popescu to sort out the things for jurov as he was next in the list [18:10]
mircea_popescu: check out the bustling marketplace lmao [18:10]
mircea_popescu: FEEDING FRENZY [18:10]
diana_coman: jurov, dcs sadly I have only 1 left 132q (though loads low q if of any help); [18:11]
diana_coman: as for tlc I have 4 at 136q [18:12]
diana_coman: but will have to figure out what they are worth now [18:12]
mircea_popescu: for all tyhis bitchingabout noob miners... there's apparently huge pent up demand for all sorts of specialist high q minerals. [18:12]
diana_coman: ugh [18:12]
jurov: i'll thake these 4 [18:12]
diana_coman: oh, there surely is mircea_popescu - the trouble there is getting them in large quantities really [18:12]
Birdman: i havbe some 116q dcs for 150\% jurov [18:12]
jurov: mircea_popescu: my first ordinary in 2 weeks [18:12]
diana_coman: and 4md at 122q [18:13]
mircea_popescu: hey wd. stick ? [18:13]
jurov: no, hoes [18:13]
jurov: basic and imp tools [18:13]
mircea_popescu: anyone aspiring to become tinkerer wanna make me a huge pile of bms low q ? [18:13]
jurov: Birdman yes hold that [18:13]
mircea_popescu: mcguyver sorry not tinkerer. [18:13]
Birdman: yes mircea_popescu [18:13]
jurov: diana_coman: md please, too [18:13]
mircea_popescu: Birdman 10k would work. [18:13]
Birdman: oh, never mind [18:13]
Birdman: im no mcguyverer [18:14]
mircea_popescu: ah kk. [18:14]
diana_coman: omg 10k bms would eat up a huge stack of toolkits too [18:14]
mircea_popescu: 250 to be precise. i'd be willing to sell that many for this purpose. [18:14]
Birdman: yeah lol and with bp shortage it seems quite the expensive project [18:14]
diana_coman: jurov, mds work out at 4.5k each though and tlc at 4k each, fine with that? [18:14]
jurov: fine [18:14]
diana_coman: ok [18:14]
mircea_popescu: i'd be selling bps too, actually. [18:15]
mircea_popescu: course the deal makes no sense unless one has high q bundle. [18:15]
jurov: diana_coman: and the sg? [18:16]
diana_coman: isn't it there? the swarming grub? [18:16]
diana_coman: ah, that's just 1.25 [18:16]
jurov: i mean, price [18:16]
diana_coman: so 41k total [18:16]
diana_coman: 4*4500+4*4000+11*1.41*1.25*366 [18:17]
jurov: tyvm [18:17]
diana_coman: enjoy [18:17]
danielpbarron: jurov, don't forget to look at my shop page [18:18]
diana_coman: so danielpbarron or hanbot any interest in the 58 wineskins at 124q? [18:18]
danielpbarron: i'd rather Mircea make the wine [18:18]
danielpbarron: i'd buy the resulting wine [18:18]
Birdman: i have bms bps and shaped slag bps to sell if there's any interest [18:18]
danielpbarron: i've not nearly had my fill of that yet [18:18]
diana_coman: kk, not let me see what I need to charge on those [18:18]
diana_coman: danielpbarron, did I miss what you said you were willing to pay on ss ? [18:19]
Birdman: danielpbarron the eulorian drunkard [18:19]
danielpbarron: nope [18:19]
diana_coman: or you don't want any of them anymore? [18:19]
danielpbarron: i don't ~drink~ the wine! [18:19]
danielpbarron: heavens forbid! [18:19]
danielpbarron: it's not even really wine [18:19]
danielpbarron: it's ~almost~ wine [18:19]
mircea_popescu: Birdman specifically re shaped ? [18:20]
Birdman: good point [18:20]
danielpbarron: the drunkard is whoever puts on the clogs [18:20]
mircea_popescu: lol [18:20]
mircea_popescu: also, any interest in 1k cr q 227 ? 165710 bv. [18:22]
Birdman: mircea_popescu i have 806 flat q42, 255 pointy q41, 214 sharp q39, will sell then all for 1.6mn [18:24]
diana_coman: omg so if bps at q5 went for that amount, wtf am I to charge on the items [18:24]
mircea_popescu: Birdman aite, sold. [18:25]
mircea_popescu: waves at danielpbarron and dances a merry jig. [18:25]
diana_coman: in other interests: 16 ss 136q ; anyone interested? will wait for 30 min to give people time to hopefully reply [18:25]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman willing to pay pro rata same as prev deal. [18:26]
diana_coman: noted [18:26]
diana_coman: and: 58 csw 124q willing to let go for 1.65mn the lot [18:27]
Birdman: pleasure as always [18:27]
Birdman: any interest in the cft bps still? gotta off 50k of em [18:28]
mircea_popescu: 58 * 1.24 * 13.5 = 970.92 how about 1.3mn diana_coman ! [18:29]
mircea_popescu: Birdman talk to jurov lol [18:29]
mircea_popescu: anyway, im willing to go 1.5mn on the cft bps. [18:29]
diana_coman: I'm afraid not mircea_popescu as atm I don't really quite see that as a good deal given the various bottlenecks on the way to csw; I'm fine to keep them [18:30]
Birdman: uhh then sold mircea_popescu [18:30]
mircea_popescu: kk. they're not as useful to me as my own because of oc issues diana_coman [18:30]
diana_coman: no problem [18:30]
mircea_popescu: Birdman aite, you know where i am :D [18:31]
diana_coman: never ever really regretted keeping something [18:31]
danielpbarron: what quality are those cft blueprints? [18:31]
diana_coman: it was always letting go of stuff [18:31]
mircea_popescu: check out Birdman&Noble's major clearance sale. [18:31]
mircea_popescu: he made what, 20mn today ? [18:31]
Birdman: damn near [18:31]
danielpbarron: Birdman, what quality were those? [18:31]
Birdman: the cft bps? all between 35-40 [18:32]
diana_coman: danielpbarron, mind saying either yay or nay on the ss after previous claim at missing the thing for it was too fast? [18:32]
danielpbarron: is there similar interest in high quality cft blueprints? [18:32]
danielpbarron: diana_coman, i'll pass [18:32]
diana_coman: lol [18:32]
mircea_popescu: o.O [18:32]
diana_coman: so then what was the whole thing about? [18:32]
diana_coman: just doesn't get it [18:33]
diana_coman: anyway mircea_popescu more ss for you then [18:33]
mircea_popescu: just realises he miscalced the cft bps lmao. [18:33]
danielpbarron: 30 ecu for 0.4 -> 116 ecu for 1.55ish ? [18:33]
mircea_popescu: 534k diana_coman was it ? [18:33]
Birdman: wanna trade me for this one mircea_popescu ? [18:34]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron i meant to pay 9 per not 30 per. soo... he made a cool mil. [18:34]
Birdman: :D [18:34]
mircea_popescu: Birdman one sec. [18:34]
danielpbarron: sheesh [18:34]
Birdman: swhy i hopped on it [18:34]
danielpbarron: well i got the primo cft blueprints [18:34]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, yes [18:34]
diana_coman: 2 min to finish craft [18:35]
danielpbarron: circa q1k Electron grass days [18:35]
Birdman: mircea_popescu need to take o0ut another 1k from storage so just take these and itll be 1 sec [18:36]
mircea_popescu: kk [18:36]
diana_coman: ugh, I really have no change mircea_popescu [18:37]
mircea_popescu: all i got is 45 coinz. [18:37]
mircea_popescu: give you 44 and 100k next time ? [18:37]
diana_coman: sounds good [18:37]
Birdman: tanks [18:38]
mircea_popescu: ty diana_coman Birdman [18:38]
diana_coman: thanks mircea_popescu [18:38]
mircea_popescu: off to eat, bbs. [18:38]
Birdman: <mircea_popescu>check out Birdman&Noble's major clearance sale. << welp no time like the present. literally. what use for this stuff do i have that will get me the same mark up? [18:39]
mircea_popescu: i can see it. [18:59]
mircea_popescu: anyone got some q200+ tpt ? [19:37]
mircea_popescu: and btw diana_coman i still want leather and berries. [19:37]
Birdman: auctioning supplications: 1 q37 thorns; 1 q38 stones; 10 q39 leather 10 q40 mosses; 2 q37 berries; 1 q38 mysterious rocks; 2 q40 lists; 1 q39 chicken; 1 q39 tiny sparks. Starting bid 600k [19:38]
Birdman: hanbot danielpbarron ^ [19:38]
mircea_popescu: intereskin [19:39]
mircea_popescu: what's bv on those ? [19:39]
Birdman: all commons are a bit over 3.6k, chickens ~14k lists and sparks about 55k and the rocks 27k [19:40]
danielpbarron: i have q162 thorns [19:40]
mircea_popescu: i really need 220-250 sadly [19:40]
mircea_popescu: have some q 170 of my own, but... [19:41]
danielpbarron: Birdman, 600k here [19:41]
danielpbarron: how much you willing to pay on 200+ ? [19:41]
hanbot: 700k on that set Birdman [19:41]
danielpbarron: i could theoretically make it happen [19:41]
mircea_popescu: i dunno, 400c ea ? [19:42]
danielpbarron: 735k Birdman [19:45]
Birdman: 735k heard danielpbarron [19:45]
danielpbarron: had to pause to actually crunch numbers [19:45]
hanbot: 750k here [19:45]
Birdman: so seems it takes about 1200 bare handed gathers for me to rank up [19:45]
danielpbarron: ahem.. (that's under 5\% increase.. what's the min bid here?) [19:45]
Birdman: heh [19:46]
Birdman: 5\% i guess [19:46]
Birdman: i should be getting about 6 gather ranks a day [19:46]
Birdman: and slowly decreasing from that [19:46]
mircea_popescu: 6 is pretty good. [19:46]
Birdman: yeah, probably can boost up to mid 200's this way [19:46]
hanbot: so 790k. [19:47]
danielpbarron: 830k [19:47]
hanbot: 900k [19:48]
danielpbarron: 945k [19:48]
hanbot: 1M [19:49]
Birdman: 1mn heard hanbot! [19:49]
danielpbarron: 1.05 mn [19:49]
hanbot: 1.2M [19:50]
danielpbarron: 1.26 [19:50]
mircea_popescu: god damned. so i have ~7k drafts and 0 made supplications [19:50]
hanbot: 1.4M [19:50]
mircea_popescu: i was going to "one of these days" for months and here we are ;/ [19:50]
hanbot: horroars [19:50]
mircea_popescu: could have made a fucking billion with you people. [19:50]
danielpbarron: yeah i was nagging you to do it for a while [19:50]
mircea_popescu: i know ;/ [19:51]
mircea_popescu: vellum being a bitch and all tho... [19:51]
danielpbarron: could have supplied [19:51]
mircea_popescu: my ever growing pile of euloran regrets. [19:51]
danielpbarron: 1.47 [19:51]
hanbot: 1.6 [19:52]
hanbot: mircea_popescu your supplications prolly'd've been super high quality too ;/ [19:53]
danielpbarron: 1.68 [19:53]
hanbot: 1.8 [19:54]
danielpbarron: 1.89 [19:54]
hanbot: mhhh, 2M. [19:56]
danielpbarron: 2.1 [19:56]
Birdman: 2.1mn heard danielpbarron ! [19:57]
Birdman: look away for one min and come back to this [19:57]
hanbot: 2.25 [19:58]
danielpbarron: 2.37 [20:04]
danielpbarron: not trying to be rude with delay; had to run some more numbers [20:04]
danielpbarron: different plateaus of considerations [20:05]
mircea_popescu: hmmmm. i wonder if there'd be any interest for... [20:06]
mircea_popescu: some duct tape ? hm ? [20:07]
hanbot: np danielpbarron. and i'm out, wd. [20:07]
danielpbarron: ty [20:07]
danielpbarron: phew, over 20x ! [20:07]
hanbot: mircea_popescu quantity, quality? [20:07]
danielpbarron: i haven't been able to sacrifice the last batch of tape i got [20:07]
danielpbarron: due to teas [20:07]
danielpbarron: still trying to get those damn nuts [20:07]
mircea_popescu: oh that's right. hmm. lessee here... [20:08]
hanbot: i can procure nuts ftr. [20:08]
danielpbarron: low quality prefered [20:08]
mircea_popescu: i could sell some murky something... [20:08]
danielpbarron: somewhat more interesting [20:08]
hanbot: danielpbarron i have q52 [20:09]
mircea_popescu: or some sparkle... [20:09]
mircea_popescu: what'd you folks prefer ? [20:09]
hanbot: consults notes [20:10]
Birdman: congrats danielpbarron 2.37 mn [20:10]
Birdman: headed to town now with your prize [20:10]
Birdman: welp [20:11]
Birdman: seems the bouqing was actually one of the better things i've done [20:11]
Birdman: back in the day sold dan those same supps for pennies [20:11]
danielpbarron: sparks i guess [20:11]
mircea_popescu: maybe later! [20:12]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron how many nuts you got so far ? [20:12]
danielpbarron: about... none [20:12]
hanbot: mircea_popescu i'm interested in the murky somethings, how many do you have? [20:12]
mircea_popescu: heh. [20:12]
mircea_popescu: i forgot, how many were needed ? [20:12]
danielpbarron: 500 i think [20:12]
mircea_popescu: hanbot i'll do an auction but later. [20:13]
hanbot: kk [20:13]
mircea_popescu: ok that's fucking insane. 500 ? [20:13]
hanbot: wow. [20:13]
mircea_popescu: one nut per tea huh. [20:13]
mircea_popescu: were these even found ? [20:13]
danielpbarron: yes that's the the issue [20:13]
hanbot: what does found mean? [20:13]
danielpbarron: apparently it's a crap hit rate with sticks [20:13]
Birdman: tried 2 sticks and got 2 misses [20:14]
mircea_popescu: crazy. [20:14]
Birdman: although ive had the same happen to me on md [20:14]
danielpbarron: hanbot, how many at q52 and how much you want? [20:14]
Birdman: and that turned out to show 9/12 ~75\% hit rate [20:14]
mircea_popescu: seeing how it's lj... i'd be amenable to giving it a few tries. [20:14]
danielpbarron: well you make high q [20:14]
mircea_popescu: ya [20:14]
danielpbarron: oh you mean just getting the claims [20:14]
mircea_popescu: if there's someone to pay well for claims... [20:15]
danielpbarron: i would buy tinies smalls ords whatever [20:15]
Birdman: trade when ready dan [20:15]
mircea_popescu: ya but for how much ? [20:15]
danielpbarron: although maybe not tinies since that's probably not cheap enough to be worth it [20:15]
mircea_popescu: i'd be sticking so no possibility of tiny. [20:15]
hanbot: danielpbarron 92 available, 3000ea. [20:16]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron how about 12k/small 25k/ord ? [20:16]
Birdman: what is the bottle neck on cs? [20:16]
mircea_popescu: wgassat hanbot ? [20:16]
mircea_popescu: pretty much everything Birdman [20:17]
hanbot: mircea_popescu for my pn [20:17]
mircea_popescu: i'd pay 3mn for 92 pn [20:17]
Birdman: ty danielpbarron [20:17]
hanbot: 0_o [20:17]
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, sure [20:17]
mircea_popescu: uhhh [20:17]
mircea_popescu: fuck. [20:17]
mircea_popescu: i'd pay 300k ! [20:17]
hanbot: hahaha [20:17]
mircea_popescu: lol [20:18]
Birdman: mircea_popescu it just so happens i could have everything needed for some cs [20:18]
Birdman: just not the tinkering level [20:18]
mircea_popescu: Birdman sure, you can have same deal as with diana_coman [20:18]
hanbot: alright, so auction of 92x q52pn, mircea_popescu has high bid @ 300k. [20:18]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron any limit on how many you buy ? [20:18]
Birdman: which is that [20:18]
mircea_popescu: Birdman pay me 125\% of value added. [20:18]
Birdman: what do you mean value added? 125\% of the bv of everything i give you to make em or somethin? [20:19]
mircea_popescu: bv of what i give you - bv of what you gave me = value i added. [20:19]
mircea_popescu: q adjusted, of course. [20:19]
Birdman: oh [20:19]
Birdman: seems like a steal [20:20]
mircea_popescu: aite, line it up. [20:20]
Birdman: anyone have a bunch of sb low or high q? [20:20]
mircea_popescu: i got 2k at 279 o.O [20:20]
mircea_popescu: dun really wanna sell because irreplaceable. [20:21]
Birdman: ah [20:21]
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, what ratio do you get? [20:21]
mircea_popescu: Birdman but i do hjave 114 ppb at q35\ [20:21]
Birdman: heh i might have made those huh [20:21]
Birdman: whatcha askin for em? [20:22]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron i have absolutely never tried it. [20:22]
danielpbarron: i mean in general [20:22]
danielpbarron: oh i think you mentioned earlier [20:22]
mircea_popescu: myea [20:22]
mircea_popescu: what was it, 14\% ord 1\% remark. [20:22]
mircea_popescu: but this - on cr. [20:22]
mircea_popescu: Birdman we'll just consider them value i add. [20:23]
Birdman: alright [20:23]
Birdman: let me get some toothpastes ready then and get em to ya [20:23]
mircea_popescu: got tpt and what else was it ? [20:23]
danielpbarron: something like 250 smalls and 5 ords [20:24]
Birdman: tpt ppb pss pastes i think thats it [20:24]
Birdman: i have all except the ppb [20:25]
mircea_popescu: got pss ? i got low tpt so we also count that as value i add np [20:25]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron so then we're on for 12k/small 25k/ord, no limit on pn ? [20:25]
danielpbarron: no limit? [20:25]
mircea_popescu: well i asked you ? is there a limit ? [20:26]
danielpbarron: i said about 250 smalls 5 ods [20:26]
mircea_popescu: ah. so basically i'll stop when i get 5 ords k. [20:26]
mircea_popescu: will be doing this tomorrow, you be around to take smalls ? [20:26]
Birdman: were the tool kits the big deal on cs? they seem otherwise dirt cheap [20:26]
hanbot: danielpbarron last call on the pn if you want it more than 300k [20:26]
Birdman: guess the pastes are a bit pricey [20:27]
danielpbarron: eh hold on mircea_popescu [20:27]
mircea_popescu: k ? [20:27]
danielpbarron: i need to test something here first [20:28]
mircea_popescu: np. [20:28]
danielpbarron: hanbot, 315k [20:29]
Birdman: oo, have 27 ppb too [20:29]
danielpbarron: i need to get nidhogg or someone to build me a small first to see if my math is right here [20:29]
hanbot: 315k heard [20:29]
hanbot: any further bids? mircea_popescu? [20:35]
mircea_popescu: im out [20:35]
hanbot: kk, sold [20:36]
hanbot: danielpbarron trade me when ready [20:36]
hanbot: ty [20:38]
danielpbarron: ty [20:38]
danielpbarron: aha ok [20:40]
danielpbarron: i don't think i need nidhogg to test it; i see where i went wrong before [20:44]
danielpbarron: and if you get 15\% ords then i defo want the deal [20:44]
danielpbarron: and probably only need 2 or 3 ords [20:47]
danielpbarron: let's say 3 [20:48]
danielpbarron: but if you get 10\% or less ords, that would not be great [20:48]
danielpbarron: unless i don't have to buy the smalls, in which case i would buy as many ords as you feel like making [20:48]
Birdman: mircea_popescu ready for some stuff? [21:03]
Birdman: also i think i looted some gumbo numina thats the 100 bv [21:04]
Birdman: various ladle handles [21:04]
Birdman: 1k bv** [21:05]
danielpbarron: ack i messed up the numbers yet again [21:06]
danielpbarron: i should want the smalls too even [21:06]
danielpbarron: too much math in one day [21:06]
Birdman: giving 101849 in bv for 23 cs [21:07]
Birdman: if there was anything i should have had the foresight to get bps of it shoulda been cs [21:10]
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron well i dunno. [21:42]
mircea_popescu: Birdman ready ? [21:53]
Birdman: yes [21:54]
mircea_popescu: aite. [21:54]
mircea_popescu: sec i math [21:55]
Birdman: mhm do ya thing [21:55]
mircea_popescu: k so 102k. [21:56]
Birdman: yes [21:57]
mircea_popescu: will be tomorro. [21:57]
mircea_popescu: btw Birdman i'm in the market for a few stacks of library dusts low q if you have 'em / still shredding. [22:29]
Birdman: whatcha payin? [22:29]
mircea_popescu: mmm, what q are you ? [22:40]
Birdman: think its all around q52 [22:48]
mircea_popescu: say 6c ea. [22:49]
mircea_popescu: got the 100 base one too ? [22:49]
mircea_popescu: the 1k base i mean [22:50]
Birdman: no [22:53]
Birdman: just 10 and 100 [22:53]
mircea_popescu: there's no 100, just 10 and 1qk [22:54]
Birdman: oh [22:54]
Birdman: then yeah i probably have that one [22:54]
mircea_popescu: aite tomorrow when i give you your cs you show me whatcha got in that line [22:54]
Birdman: yes sir [22:55]

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